MINUTES OF MEETING
HARMONY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
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The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Harmony Community Development
District (“CDD”) was held Thursday, November 30, 2023, at 6:00 p.m. at the Jones Model Home,
3285 Songbird Circle, Saint Cloud, FL 34773.
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Present and constituting a quorum were:
Mark LeMenager	Chairman
Daniel Leet	Vice Chairman
Lucas Chokanis	Supervisor
Kerul Kassel	Supervisor
Joellyn Phillips	Supervisor 14
Also present, either in person or via Zoom Video Communications, were:
Angel Montagna (via phone)	District Manager, Inframark
Lynn Hayes	District Manager, Inframark
Michael Eckert (via Zoom)	District Legal Counsel, Kutak Rock
David Hamstra	District Engineer, Pegasus Engineering
Jorge Baez	Field Supervisor, Inframark
Nick Lomasney	Benchmark Landscaping
Kerry Satterwhite	Area Field Manager, Inframark
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This is not a certified or verbatim transcript but rather represents a recap of the discussions and
actions taken at the meeting. The full meeting recording is available in audio format upon request.
Contact the District Office for any related costs for an audio copy.
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FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS	Call to Order and Roll Call
Mr. Leet called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Mr. Leet called the roll and indicated a quorum was present for the meeting.
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SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS	Audience Comments
Mr. Leet stated we ask you keep your comments to three minutes. We will try not to interrupt
or interject or have any back and forth. We prefer you address an item that is on the agenda.
Otherwise, we can take your concern and have it put on an agenda for a future meeting if it is not
addressed tonight.
Mr. LeMenager stated one thing struck me going through the minutes for this meeting. I believe
Mr. Leet made a comment about the CDD having to approve the plat. I would simply like to point
out that you do not have to. The Florida Legislature put approval of the plat in the CDD’s hands.
I am not sure the CDD ever told the developer that we are not going to approve the plat. I certainly
told Starwood Land Ventures that, and it actually got some action. Do not assume that this five-

story building has to be approved. You have the power, and the Florida Legislature put it in the
law. It might be a nice time to test it.
Ms. Donna Bruno stated I purchased a home here specifically because they said I was allowed
to park an RV, which is for a legal handicap. I have a medical condition that requires things be
kept in the vehicle, and they said I would be able to park it. I paid the money to them. I have a
copy of it if anyone wants to see, to the homeowners association (“HOA”) at the time. That is who
was collecting it. They have given refunds. The road caved in. I was not allowed to park. I paid
the money but did not get one day of parking. They were refunding money. Other people have
received it. A gentleman across the street received a refund. I have been trying since February to
get it back. I have never been able to park one day. It caused me a hardship. Rocker’s Lockers is
full, and I could not rent there. I had to purchase a piece of property in an RV park in order to park
that vehicle which has a legal handicap tag on it. I do not know if I am being discriminated against
because I am a woman or whatever. Other people have received a refund, but I have not received
a refund back.
Ms. Kassel stated we will talk about his later on the agenda because this is not a back and forth
here, but we have made a note. I do have a question. From whom did these people that you know
of get a refund? Is it from the Harmony Residential Owners Association (“HROA”) that this check
is made out to?
Ms. Bruno stated they said the HOA paid the funds. I called HOA Solutions, and they said they
gave my funds to the CDD. And that is who I should get the money from. That is how I was
instructed in February. I am getting the runaround. I do know people who have received a refund.
Mr. Joseph Janeczek stated I have a statement that I will read. I see I am not the first one to
comment on the trees on Oak Glen Trail because it is on the agenda, so I will skip that. The Buck
Lake location for the community maintenance facility seems to be the way the Board is leaning. I
have been out there a couple times looking at where it is going to be, and I hope the Board has
taken the following things into consideration before making a final decision because it may add
costs in the long run. First of all, the site is not level. It may have to be leveled before using or
getting Osceola County (“County”) approval. The slab is actually lower than much of the
surrounding area, which means it will need a lot of soil and water diversion work to keep it from
flooding during rain events. The sidewalk on the southwest corner actually drains onto the pad.
The last couple items I am sure the topography will confirm. The slab itself, do you know the
thickness or the PSI of the concrete? Will the County even approve using this pad for the anchoring
of a building? Steel buildings usually require cable bracing for a specific concrete thickness and

PSI strength before they will warrant that the building and the anchor pins will hold. Has that been
considered using that pad? If the slab does not meet the building requirements on the part of the
manufacturer or the erector, the slab may have to be removed and replaced. The slab itself is within
several feet of the trail to Buck Lake. If you are going to try to hide the building with bushes as
stated in other meetings, it is likely that trail will have to be moved. It is things like that I noticed.
Another item is Five Oaks Drive flooding, which may have been talked about at the last meeting
that I did not attend but I read the minutes. I noticed proposal #1386 was approved to have someone
come in and jet the pipes and see if that would help unclog them. That was one of my comments.
I would recommend you add it, unless it is already in the proposal to have the person jetting it also
create a map if you do not have a map of the lines where the pipes go. It is fairly easy for them to
do at the same time, and they can also give you elevations of the inlets and outlets. My guess is
there has been a lot of filling of the ponds during the last six years that I have lived in Harmony.
Maybe it just needs to be cleaned out at the end, but then again, it may go from each of the pipes
from pond to pond, as well. It might be clogged just because the sediment has built up. I have a
general comment. I was reading the agenda for October, and I had to check a couple times to make
sure it was not the September meeting because you go over the same things time and time again.
It is a waste of your time, and things are not getting done because the same thing is repeated and
repeated. I do not know what can be done about it, but it is something I noticed. I am sure it
frustrates you, as well.
Ms. Kassel asked did we not rescind that vote and we are just waiting to hear about Cat Brier
Trail?
Mr. Hayes asked the CCTV? I would defer to the engineer.
Mr. Leet stated it will be addressed in his report.
Ms. Marylin Ash-Mower stated I am speaking on behalf of the garden committee. I do not
know if this is an informational item for the Board or not, but Mr. Dan Heck, Mr. Lomasney, and
I have been talking about that area down in the garden behind the fence where they are putting tree
cuttings and so forth. We were talking that the garden could use those chippings from the tree
branches to put on the paths of the garden. What Mr. Lomasney has come up with is, he felt it
would be easier to bring in a chipper and chip all those branches instead of hauling them out of
there, and them leave us the chippings. Also, the committee has been talking about composting
because the recycling center no longer delivers us any of the compost soil. Mr. Lomasney drew up
some plans, and I have copies for you.
Ms. Kassel asked are you making a request of the CDD?

Ms. Ash-Mower stated if there are no objections, we would like to move forward with that.
Ms. Kassel asked is it on CDD property?
Ms. Ash-Mower stated yes, it is part of the garden.
Ms. Kassel asked what are you asking of us?
Mr. Lomasney stated she is asking for approval to use the cuttings from the tree trimmings to
use for the garden.
Ms. Ash-Mower stated it is to work with the landscaper to mutually benefit one another. My
understanding was that code enforcement wanted you to get rid of that area down there.
Ms. Kassel stated that is a question, and I am not sure what this represents.
Ms. Ash-Mower stated that is behind the fence with the green covering on it. If you go down
where the storage area was and look to your left, there is a sliding gate and a big fence.
Mr. Leet stated the gate is for the RV lot.
Ms. Ash-Mower stated yes, no equipment, nothing will be down there, just plant material. We
used to put all our plant material for the garden in the dumpster, and we were requested not to do
that because it fills up the dumpster too quickly. We thought it would be a good place to dump it
and start composting in there.
Ms. Kassel stated we need to find out who to contact to find out if the County will let us do
that onsite. I would think so because it is a garden thing, but I think we just need to make sure. I
do not even know who to contact, but I am sure Mr. Hayes can find out.
Mr. Hayes stated yes, I am sure it is the same folks we have dealt with for code enforcement.
Ms. Ash-Mower stated I just wanted everyone on the same page for that. My next question is
the garden shed that has been approved. Has a start date been set? When will that area down there
be cleaned up from the debris? The other thing I noticed coming out of the garden is that the road
is beginning to washboard after the gas line company was in there. They brought in a bunch of
stones and dumped them down at the back end. I have a gardener who knows how to operate a
front-end loader, and I want to know if we have permission to use that to move this crushed stone.
Ms. Kassel stated field services would need to do that. I do not think we can have a resident
use CDD equipment.
Ms. Ash-Mower asked does field services have the time to do it?
Ms. Kassel stated we can find out during the field services report later on the agenda. We are
not supposed to have a back and forth during audience comments.

Ms. Kim Capano stated I do not live here. I am with a builder, Hartizen Homes, and we have
a townhome community coming up at the entrance of Heron Drive. I am not sure if you have seen
that taking place.
Mr. Leet stated that item is on the agenda for tonight.
Ms. Capano stated our request was to see if we could have access to the recreation center for
photography and videography that we can use for advertising purposes on our website. Also, if we
could have signage that is respectable throughout the community to advertise in the community.
Mr. Leet stated we will discuss that further at that agenda item.
Mr. Timothy Dwyer stated my comment relates to the action item on the agenda for signs for
Billy’s Trail. The agenda shows a sign being put up at the south end. Just to update you, we have
also installed a sign on the north end of CDD property and also several guideposts or trail markers
in between to encourage people to stay on CDD property.
Ms. Kassel stated thanks for your work; it is much appreciated.
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THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Administrative Matters
A. Appointment for Seat 5 Unexpired Term
Mr. Leet stated the unexpired term runs through November 2024. We received three qualified
applicants: Mark LeMenager, John Valldejuli, and Melissa Thomas. Mr. LeMenager is here in
person. I do not know if Mr. Valldejuli is here in person or on the Zoom call.
Ms. Kassel stated if you are on Zoom, you will want to unmute yourself.
Ms. Melissa Vrobel stated Vrobel is my married name. I have lived here for 16 years and
started as Thomas.
Mr. Leet stated two applicants are here in person. Mr. LeMenager sent a brief résumé. I do not
know if Ms. Vrobel has any materials or want to introduce yourself briefly.
Ms. Vrobel stated I can introduce myself. I did not know what was required because I am not
on Facebook.
Mr. Leet stated the requirements are to be a registered voter within this voting precinct,
registered to vote, reside within the CDD boundary, and willing to serve.
Ms. Vrobel stated I have lived here since 2006. I had brief pauses where I went to a different
state for a promotion. I am a big fan of Harmony, and I think everyone should serve. I want to
serve. When the opportunity was brought to me, I thought I would throw my name in the ring. My
background, I am a chemical engineer. I am very logical. I am very good at problem solving, so I
think I could be a benefit, especially being an outside voice of someone who has not been ingrained
with everything going on. I did read last month’s minute, but other than that, I am pretty new to it

all. I have been a resident, and I am happy to spend time with Harmony residents. I think it is time
to get a little more involved in how things are shaping up in the town.
Ms. Kassel stated I would like to interview each candidate.
Mr. Leet stated yes, after introductions, we will have time for the Board to ask questions of
any of the candidates that are here.
Mr. LeMenager stated I have been here since 2008 and somehow managed to get elected to
the CDD Board that very same year. I served as a Supervisor for eight years. In fact, Ms. Kassel
and I were the very first non-developer Supervisors. In terms of why I am running, to be perfectly
honest, when I read the qualifications of the other candidates, my initial reaction was you would
have to be nuts not to take this guy. But I see he is not here. Another former Supervisor encouraged
me to come and speak about experience. I sometimes feel that there is too much done trying to
reinvent the wheel. There are not new problems, just different problems. For things we had to
address in the past, we came up with solutions. That was the main thing. As I said to Ms. Kassel
when she interviewed me, I am 72 years old and fully retired, and frankly, life is a little boring. I
figured I needed a challenge to get going again.
Mr. Leet stated I think we can interview them from their seats.
Mr. Hayes stated yes, as long as they can be heard and the Board is okay with it. The Board
can ask them questions at this time and follow that by any discussion. Keep in mind, you have a
couple candidates who are here tonight, but you do not have to make a decision this evening. You
could push this back another 30 days to see if you get more candidates. Just food for thought.
Ms. Kassel asked are we sure the microphone will be able to hear Ms. Vrobel from where she
is?
Mr. Hayes stated I have no issue with it. I will ask them to come to the table just to make sure.
Ms. Kassel stated Ms. Vrobel and I have known each other for years and years. The agenda is
typically a couple hundred pages long. It is that way every month. There are at least 150 to 200-
plus pages of the main agenda, and there is another 60 pages or more—89 pages this month—of
invoices to review. You have about a week or less to do that. Number one, this is not just a
thankless task to be a CDD Board member, but it has gotten to be good deed well punished, so you
need to have thick skin if you are going to serve. I am putting that out there for everyone. Also, it
is a lot of work in a short period of time, and our meetings can be three-plus hours long. I think
one was almost four hours recently. I know that you will be here some of the year but not all of
the year, but it is a full-year term. Maybe answer the question of the load of work in a limited
period of time. It is pretty much the same time every month except November and December

because our meetings are not always the last Thursday of the month. Also answer how you will
handle when you go to Buffalo.
Ms. Vrobel stated as I understand it, I can attend meetings via Zoom, which I do most of my
work as a consultant. I work from home, so I am always on Zoom or Teams. I am very comfortable
with that. I saw the agenda and the many, many pages. I think that is part of the service. As far as
thick skinned, I have worked with all male engineers for over 30 years, so I do not think I will
have a problem with that.
Mr. Chokanis stated I am an electrical engineer. Can you tell me about your engineering history
and what you did?
Ms. Vrobel stated yes, I graduated from Penn State in 1997, and I worked in manufacturing as
a senior engineer and research and development engineer. I moved onto software. I was hired by
Autodesk, a firm out of San Francisco, for autoCAD electrical and other autoCAD products. I
worked there for 15 years and then started my own consulting company. I have been doing that
ever since. I work from home, even when I worked for Autodesk, I was a solution architect,
bringing people together and coming up with a common workflow and executing it.
Ms. Kassel stated another thing that Mr. Janeczek mentioned is that as a local government, we
are laboring under a lot of legal requirements, which often means things are tabled from meeting
to meeting or things take a much longer time than they would in the regular business world. That
can cause a lot of frustration. You have to be okay with the fact that things will move slowly.
Ms. Vrobel stated I have lived here for 16 years, and I am used to that.
Ms. Phillips stated we are not allowed to talk with each other between meetings. Everything
we say has to be here.
Ms. Vrobel stated I was not aware of that.
Ms. Phillips stated it is the Sunshine Law.
Ms. Vrobel asked so no ranting on Facebook?
Mr. Hayes stated no.
Ms. Vrobel stated good thing I do not have an account.
Ms. Phillips stated regarding the Facebook group, that is a private group by one individual.
Anyone can start a private group on Facebook, but that is not an official channel or means of
communication from the CDD. We cannot have a Facebook group page because the Americans
with Disabilities Act because it would have to be in a format where people can use it. But we do
have a website, www.HarmonyCDD.org. All the information about running for office was on
there. I am saying this because I want everyone to hear it, and I wish we had more people here.

We have a new website, and Mr. Hayes has put in so much work to get it up and running. If you
are looking for real information, please use the website. I am not on Facebook, either. I have an
account, but I do not participate in the Harmony group. I just use it for gmail.
Ms. Kassel stated we had a deadline of November 20, and I wanted to ask the Board about that
because her email came in on the 22nd. Mr. Hayes was saying we do not have to decide tonight but
we can extend the deadline. My sense is, a number of people are dissatisfied with the Board and
the Board’s decisions and have said they are going to run for office when the opportunity arises.
But we do not see them here tonight. Personally, I hesitate to offer a longer time period for people.
If they were serious, they would have provided it. This will be up to the Board to decide on this.
Since we are interviewing Ms. Vrobel, there is an implicit acceptance that we are accepting her
late, overdue application.
Ms. Vrobel stated I wanted to apologize; I was not aware of the deadline.
Mr. Chokanis asked you have lived here 16 years?
Ms. Vrobel stated longer than that, since 2006.
Mr. Chokanis stated I do not know if you are aware, but I am recently new, too. I became a
Board member in April 2023 or thereabouts. I have been a resident since 2013, and the Board
members asked me why I waited so long to apply. That is my question to you, 16 years as a
resident, why are you now interested in joining the Board?
Ms. Vrobel stated things slowed down for me a bit for my husband and me. He is working in
Buffalo, so I am here fulltime, and I have time to do this now. Also, I know good people who have
been on the Board. I have not been too concerned, but I think it is more the growth around us that
has me more concerned. I am a huge fan. A friend and I said we were going to run for Mayor if
Harmony ever has that opportunity. We have always been huge supporters of Harmony, but I think
it is critical for us as we are getting closed in to make sure we keep this Harmony special.
Mr. Chokanis asked do you have any government experience?
Ms. Vrobel stated other than politics, no. I love watching political television shows.
Mr. Leet stated Ms. Teresa Kramer, who resigned at the end of last month’s meeting, was our
Chairman. The position of Chairman is not tied to any one seat. After we appoint someone to fill
that seat, the next step will be to designate officers, including Chairman and Vice Chairman. The
Chairman has more responsibilities, working much more with Inframark, our management
company. Even people who have lived here a long time might say, there is an HOA and a CDD.
How familiar are you with the responsibilities of the CDD and maybe some of the working parts—
attorney, engineer, manager, field services—from living here 16 years and the agendas you have

looked at? What is your familiarity level with that, and do you have any interest at all in perhaps
serving as Chairman or Vice Chairman?
Ms. Vrobel stated I would say no for Chairman or Vice Chairman. I have a good understanding
of the split between the HOA and the CDD, just from being here. When you call one, they will say
it is the other’s responsibility, but when you call then, they will say to call the post office. I am
sure we have all gone through that. Being new to the Board, that is not something I would take on.
I would be here to serve in any way possible.
Mr. Leet asked what is your favorite trail?
Ms. Vrobel stated I do not go on the trails; I go on the sidewalks. My husband thinks that is
the best thing, to walk out your front door, turn left or right and walk for 13 miles. I used to run,
but I do not do that much anymore. I can walk six or eight miles in flip flops.
Ms. Phillips stated I was going to bring up that Mr. Chokanis and I are on the Board until
November 2026. Seat 5, Ms. Kassel, and Mr. Leet serve until November 2024. I looked it all up
today. When I came on the Board, there was a vacancy, and I was the only person who came
forward. I was not sure I was going to continue, but I was going to start because an election was
coming up, yet no one ran against me. I was so excited to see my name on a ballot, but they did
not even put it on because I ran unopposed.
Mr. Hayes stated to highlight Ms. Phillips’s point, whoever is appointed would be filling the
remainder of the term to November 2024. Once we get into election year next year, we will go
through the process of general elections.
Mr. Leet stated that is done through the supervisor of elections, and you have to qualify pretty
early, around March or so.
Mr. Hayes stated we get that information from them, and they will let us know. The
qualification period is usually in June, but they will be providing that qualification period. As the
manager, I will be announcing that, as well, in meetings to let everyone know exactly when the
qualifying period is to go to the supervisor of elections to complete their forms and get registered.
Mr. Leet stated next is Mr. LeMenager.
Ms. Kassel stated I reached out to Mr. LeMenager to request a private interview before. I asked
him all the questions I would want to ask. He is interested in serving as Chairman from my
understanding. Are you still interested?
Mr. LeMenager stated I must be crazy, but yes. I always wanted to serve as Chairman when I
was on the Board previously.
Ms. Phillips asked I take it you are retired from working?

Mr. LeMenager stated I am done. I was really at the end of my real estate career. Then I fell
and broke my back. Two weeks later, the pandemic started. I missed the beginning of the pandemic
because I was flat on my back in the guest bedroom for two months. I am really retired now.
Ms. Phillips asked so you have lots of time to devote to us?
Mr. LeMenager stated yes, actually, I do.
Ms. Phillips stated of course, you are already familiar with what the CDD is and what we own
and what we have to take care of and budget restraints and so forth.
Mr. LeMenager stated I must admit that what we own always seemed like a moving target. I
understand we have done some maps now and we have a really good handle on it. Back when I
was on the Board, I am not sure we knew exactly what we owned.
Ms. Phillips stated developers left a lot of little spots.
Ms. Kassel stated we were deeded things that we did not agree to be deeded. The tax assessor
had some things that were not correct.
Mr. Chokanis stated you said you began as a Board member in 2008. After eight years, what
was the reason for you leaving?
Mr. LeMenager stated I lost in the election.
Mr. Chokanis stated so you were voted out. You have always wanted to be a Board member.
Mr. LeMenager stated I ran in four elections. I won two, and I lost two. The last person who
beat me, quit.
Mr. Leet stated that person beat me, as well. The first time I ran was 2018, and he had been on
the ballot with Mr. LeMenager and me. Mr. Mike Scarborough won that election, and he resigned
some years later. Mr. LeMenager has been on the Board before and would have been again. It was
not for a lack of trying.
Ms. Kassel asked do you want to tell us about your business background?
Mr. LeMenager stated sure, I was a little short in my application. I have always considered
myself basically a business analyst. I graduated from college with an honors degree in math. I
started out as an actuary and switched to administration. I was head hunted and met a senior
executive that I had to work for. I just had to work for this guy, so I took that job. I had the
opportunity to do one project to go to Europe to fix something. I really enjoyed it. I came back and
said I would be interested in going to Europe. Eight months later, they asked if we wanted to go to
Europe for 18 months, and we stayed 18 years. I ended up as founder and president of our operation
in Poland. We had a great time. I always like to say, with some truth, I am usually the smartest guy
in the room with the worst social skills. That is an apt description of me. I once had a boss who

basically said to give it to me because I can figure anything out. Communicating it can be a
different story, as Ms. Kassel knows, having sat next to me for eight years. We came back from
Europe. I have done very well in real estate here. The recession hit, and I realized I had to reinvent
myself again, so I came up with real estate and have done extremely well at it.
Ms. Phillips asked even with your limited social skills?
Mr. LeMenager stated yes, sometimes you have to move outside your comfort zone, and that
is really what I did. I absolutely forced myself to move outside my comfort zone. I had lots of
wonderful reviews online.
Ms. Phillips stated what I was getting at was, I do not think your social skills are as awkward
as you might think they are.
Mr. LeMenager stated they are not as awkward as they used to be.
Ms. Phillips stated in your application, you said you felt the Board had lost their way. I was
wondering if you could tell me what you meant by that.
Mr. LeMenager stated it seems to me that, from afar, since Mr. Steve Berube became
Chairman, there has always been a strong leader. Ms. Kramer, by all accounts, was also a strong
leader. It seems to me that we changed things for the sake of change and not necessarily because
it was broken. If it is not broke, do not fix it.
Ms. Phillips asked let us say you get on the Board and became Chairman, are you going to do
it like Ms. Kramer or like Mr. Berube? Or something else?
Mr. LeMenager stated hopefully something more in the middle. I always thought I did my best
work on the CDD when I could convince Mr. Ray Walls of something. You do not get farther right
than Mr. Walls, and you can get a little farther left than me, but not much. Yet, we figured out a
way to work together. We both came up with ideas.
Ms. Kassel stated that was a different era.
Mr. Leet stated you answered my one question already.
Mr. Chokanis asked if you are appointed to the Board, is your goal to be the Chairman or Vice
Chairman, or a Supervisor?
Mr. LeMenager stated I would love to be Chairman.
Mr. Hayes stated when the Board finishes with the questioning and makes an appointment to
fill the seat, then we will ask for nominations and vote for Chairman and then same with Vice
Chairman. At that point, you will have an opportunity to nominate who you would like for
Chairman and Vice Chairman.

Mr. Leet stated I do not see that Mr. Valldejuli has dialed in. If that concludes all our questions
for the two candidates, what is the Board comfortable doing? Do we want to discuss here? Do we
want to ask the candidates to leave if we are not comfortable discussing in front of them?
Mr. Chokanis stated I think we should ask the Board if we want to take a vote tonight or wait.
Ms. Phillips stated I think we should vote tonight.
Ms. Kassel stated I agree.
Ms. Phillips stated people had their chance. We have two wonderful candidates. It is not fair
to them to extend it if they have complied. That is my opinion to vote on it.
Mr. Chokanis stated I just wanted to make that statement.
Mr. Leet stated I am extremely grateful for everyone. Some of you may not know the history,
but before I was ever elected, I would show up to the meetings anyway. I would stream the videos
and setup cameras. Bringing new people in is the best possible outcome. I am extremely happy
that Ms. Vrobel submitted her name. as I alluded to my interview question for an extremely selfish
reason, having served as acting Chairman for a month, that is my ticket out. I signed up to be Vice
Chairman and I will not walk away from that. Ms. Kramer resigned, and if that is the Board’s
position for me to continue, I will happily and to the best of my abilities serve that role. The time
it will take to do effectively is not compatible with my day job and time with my family. Mr.
LeMenager being willing to serve as Chairman, for extremely selfish reasons appeals to me,
possibly even beyond November. It takes hours each month to go over the materials, set things up,
attend the meetings, and interact with residents and their concerns. Up to this point, it has been
manageable on something that maybe to my family’s chagrin I may be willing to continue doing
for another term if elected, versus if I end up needing to continue in the role as Chairman, I will
do that to the best of my abilities, and you will not see me in December. I cannot say how much I
am grateful that Ms. Vrobel has come here as a relative outsider. Regardless of tonight, I would
encourage when the next election rolls around to qualify with the supervisor of elections. Just like
I have encouraged everyone who has applied for vacant seats, please continue to be involved in
that process. I am grateful Ms. Vrobel is here, but for selfish reasons, I would be in favor of
nominating Mr. LeMenager for the open seat.
Ms. Kassel stated I have known them both for many years. I appreciate and respect them both
very much. It is a hard decision because I do not want to alienate either of you. I think you both
bring different but wonderful qualities. Like Mr. Leet, I run a non-profit that is still trying to get
off the ground. I do not have the bandwidth to be Chairman, or Vice Chairman, for that matter.
My selfish reasons, along with Mr. Leet’s, in that, Mr. LeMenager is willing to serve as Chairman.

As of November next year, I will have served four consecutive terms on the Board. I am hoping
someone with a good head on their shoulders might run against me or run for my seat.
Ms. Phillips stated I would vote for Mr. LeMenager.
Mr. Chokanis stated I know Mr. LeMenager has a lot of experience, being a former Board
member and in his career. I am a little concerned of you coming on and approaching it, as you
mentioned the way Mr. Berube did it and the way Ms. Kramer did it. I would not say they were a
dictatorship, but they always tried to convince people to go to their side. You did say you are the
smartest guy in the room, so you can take that side. But from my perspective as a younger person,
you really need to understand everyone’s viewpoint and take that into consideration.
Mr. LeMenager stated yes, I can address that.
Mr. Chokanis stated that is my position. I will not vote for Mr. LeMenager. I want Ms. Vrobel
to be on the Board. I was not necessarily going to run for Chairman because I thought Mr. Leet
was going to step up and run, but since everyone else said they were not going to run, that is
potentially an option for me.
Ms. Phillips stated I am also not interested in being Chairman.
Mr. Chokanis stated thank you both for coming out. When I applied, it was only two people,

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427	are. Then I can take it to the next step. Who would Ms. Phillips like to nominate?	
428	Ms. Phillips stated I am not going to nominate anyone. I am just going to vote.	
429	Ms. Kassel stated we already have a nomination and a second. Now we just vote. Are you	
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431	Mr. Hayes stated yes, we are continuing to the vote.	

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Upon VOICE VOTE, with Mr. Leet, Ms. Phillips, and Ms. Kassel voting in favor of Mr. LeMenager, and Mr. Chokanis voting in favor of Ms. Vrobel, approval was given (by a margin of 3-1) to appoint Mr. LeMenager to fill the unexpired term of office for Seat 5, which expires November 2024.

Mr. Hayes stated now I will ask for nominations for Chairman.

Mr. Leet stated that is separate.
Ms. Kassel stated that comes after.
Ms. Phillips asked do we need to swear him in first?
Ms. Kassel stated yes.
Mr. Hayes stated no, not at all. You go through the vote process. You have established the
candidates. What we are trying to do at this point is determine if you have a nomination for the
Chairman position.
Mr. Leet stated that comes after the oath of office.
Ms. Kassel stated let us hear from Mr. Eckert.
Mr. Hayes stated I will frame the motion.
Mr. Eckert stated I heard a majority of votes for Mr. LeMenager, who needs to take the oath
of office, be seated, and then Mr. LeMenager will be able to participate in selection of the
Chairman.
Mr. Hayes stated what I want to do if I may, is I will frame the motion, and we will go through
the motion part of this. Mr. Leet is making a motion and Ms. Phillips seconded, so I am requesting
a motion to appoint Mr. LeMenager to the vacant seat 5 for the remaining term until November
2024. The Board can now vote.
Ms. Kassel stated we just voted.
Mr. Leet stated that was the nomination. I made the motion, Ms. Phillips made the second, and
we already did a voice vote. Thank you to both our applicants. Congratulations, Mr. LeMenager.
You are welcome to join us at the dais.
B. Oath of Office
Mr. Hayes stated for the record, I am a Notary of the State of Florida, and as such, can
administer oaths of office.
Mr. Hayes administered the oath of office to Mr. LeMenager.
Mr. Hayes stated we will make the written oath part of the minutes for today’s meeting.
The meeting recessed at 2:58 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 3:02 p.m.
C. Consideration of Resolution 2024-03, Designation of Officers
Mr. Hayes stated I apologize, I got ahead of myself earlier.
Mr. Leet read Resolution 2024-03 into the record by title.
Mr. Leet stated we already had some discussion during the interview process. Does anyone
else have any thoughts on someone they would like to nominate for Chairman or would like to
speak to the Board as to why they would like to be considered for Chairman?

Ms. Kassel asked can we nominate both Chairman and Vice Chairman at the same time?

Ms. Kassel nominated Mr. LeMenager to serve as Chairman. Ms. Phillips seconded the nomination.

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Mr. Leet stated we have a motion that has passed, and the Board can discuss further. That can
be if you are in support of that or not. I have already made my decision. Mr. Chokanis mentioned
he might like to be considered.
Mr. Chokanis stated no, I think we already had enough discussion. I think we can go ahead
and vote.
Mr. Hayes stated yes, it looks like we have three votes in favor of Mr. LeMenager for Chairman
and one opposed.
Mr. Leet stated we had a motion. I want to be sure everyone said everything they would like
to.
Ms. Phillips stated if Mr. Chokanis wanted to do it, I would certainly consider him. I was not
leaving him out.
Mr. Leet stated I would say that, as well. Choosing between the two candidates for the open
seat, for my position, I am confident that someone else would do a better job as Chairman than I
would myself. That does not necessarily have to be Mr. LeMenager. That is why I wanted to open
it for discussion, if Mr. Chokanis wants to make a pitch if you would like to step up and have the
time. We deserve to hear that.
Mr. Chokanis stated I think I will hold off on that.
Mr. Leet stated we have a motion that has been seconded, so this is discussion for that motion.
Ms. Phillips stated next November, three seats will expire and we will have an election. Mr.
Chokanis could step in at that time.
Ms. Kassel stated November 2024.
Ms. Phillips stated yes, that is next November. We reorganize at that point.
Mr. Leet stated yes, the first meeting that is held after the election results are in, we do not wait
for inauguration day, but at the next meeting, the new members will be sworn in, and the same
process we are doing right now will repeat and a new Chairman and Vice Chairman will be
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Mr. Leet stated Mr. LeMenager is welcome to run the meeting from here. I know in other
districts, the manager often will run the meeting.
Mr. LeMenager stated I am more than happy for Mr. Leet to run the meeting. You are more
than prepared to do it.

Mr. LeMenager nominated Mr. Chokanis to serve as Vice Chairman.
Mr. Leet seconded the nomination.

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Ms. Phillips asked is Mr. Chokanis willing to accept that?
Mr. Leet stated we have not voted on anything yet. This is the point to discuss that. The role
of Vice Chairman might be nothing. There are months where no other tasks are asked of me. If the
Chairman is traveling or unavailable, then you would be the person the manager or attorney would
go to for an answer or a decision. In the event the Chairman is not at the meeting, then you would
have the option of conducting the meeting or letting the manager do that for you. It is a variable
time requirement. If you are open to the possibility, I have no qualms releasing that role.
Mr. Chokanis stated no, I think Mr. Leet has been doing a great job. I am still new here. I

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Ms. Kassel made a MOTION to approve Resolution 2024-03 designating the following officers: Mr. LeMenager as Chairman, Mr. Leet as Vice Chairman, Mr. Hayes as Secretary, Mr. Stephen Bloom as Treasurer, Ms. Montagna as Assistant Treasurer, and Ms. Yarilis Villarrubia as Assistant Secretary.
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Upon VOICE VOTE, with all in favor, unanimous approval was given (by a margin of 5-0) to Resolution 2024-03 designating the following officers: Mr. LeMenager as Chairman, Mr. Leet as Vice Chairman, Mr. Hayes as Secretary, Mr. Stephen Bloom as Treasurer, Ms. Montagna as Assistant Treasurer, and Ms. Yarilis Villarrubia as Assistant Secretary.

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D. Consideration of Resolution 2024-04, Recognizing the Contributions of Teresa
Kramer
Mr. Leet read Resolution 2024-04 into the record by title.
Mr. Leet stated as common practice, we like to recognize the contributions of departing
Supervisors. This Resolution was in the agenda package, recognizing the contributions of Ms.
Kramer.

Mr. Leet made a MOTION to approve Resolution 2024-04, recognizing the contributions of Ms. Teresa Kramer.
Mr. Kassel seconded the motion.

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FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Staff Reports
A. Landscaping: Benchmark Landscaping/United Land Services (“Benchmark”)
Mr. Lomasney stated we had 150 sycamore trees treated by TruGreen. With the ant travel after
the rain around the lake, they were treated his week, as well. The oak trees that were problematic
at the Ashley Park pool over the canopy at the park were cut, as well, significantly, so it will not
be a problem in a year or two. The trellis and the pool here, across from the Square were cut, as
well. The irrigation report for this month was completed as of 4:00 today as far as the suggestions.
However, it presented two problems: two valves, minor, but they have to be addressed. The meters
are not off, just those particular valves. The other areas will continue to be watered. I know we
have been getting a lot of rain, but we will get on that right away. As far as the tree that has been
problematic with the stump, that was supposed to happen this week.
Ms. Kassel stated the one on Blue Stem.

Mr. Lomasney stated yes. That has been moved to this Thursday coming up. The stump will
be removed.
Ms. Kassel stated December 7.
Mr. Lomasney stated if I can get it done sooner, I will. Pine straw was completed, as well.
Ms. Kassel asked all the mulch?
Mr. Lomasney stated we are about eight pallets shy from where we were. We will get that
taken care of. We are just waiting on availability. I have it documented for the areas that need to
get it done.
Ms. Kassel stated I have a question on geraniums. I have had geraniums, and I have never had
a problem with deer, but I am noticing a lot of the flowers are missing from the geraniums.
Mr. Lomasney stated I noticed that, also. For a couple days, I was replanting them. I think what
happens is, the deer do not like them, but they have to find that out for themselves. Some areas are
not affected. That roundabout on Schoolhouse Road got hit the hardest. I replanted them. I do
monitor it. They are green. If I have to replace a couple, I have some at the shop for that particular
area. Mr. Jacob Mootz and I have spoken on it. I want to get it fixed, and we are working on it. we
have identified it there and also at the main entrance.
Mr. Chokanis asked they are eating them?
Mr. Lomasney stated yes, and they are pulling them up. I hurry up first thing in the morning
and get my crews going. Then I go find the bed they did this to, and I stick them back in the ground,
but the very next day, they do it again.
Ms. Kassel stated you may consider a deer repellant spray.
Mr. Lomasney stated we have. We are going to consider everything possible to stop it from
spreading.
Ms. Kassel stated maybe we can have some Harmony residents donate some dog hair.
Mr. Lomasney stated we did notice it. We did replant them. I check them first thing in the
morning, and all the annual beds.
Mr. Chokanis asked what if it still becomes an issue?
Ms. Kassel stated then geraniums will be off the table.
Mr. Lomasney stated moving forward, we will not have them.
Ms. Kassel stated I have not had a problem with them. I have them at the ranch, but I have not
had a problem.
Mr. Lomasney stated I have seen deer. I have come in at night, and three or four are right in
that area.

Ms. Phillips stated they have knocked the planters off my porch, the impatiens. It was not a
geranium.
Mr. Hayes stated I want to point out when you are finished with Mr. Lomasney, we have to
ratify a proposal, and there is one in your agenda to consider before you let him go.
Mr. Leet stated yes, before that, we will ask Mr. Lomasney our questions.
Mr. Chokanis stated on Five Oaks Drive toward Middlebrook Place and Feathergrass Court,
the opposite side toward the golf course, those sprinklers were running like crazy, at weird times.
I do not know what is going on with the timers. It is very green over there, but it is running multiple
times during the week.
Mr. Lomasney stated one of those valves is the one I was speaking of. The first time I heard of
it and got the email, by the time I got there, it was off. I could not duplicate the problem. Once it
happened again, I found the valve and I found the problem. I changed the time and I shut that
particular zone off. Once that is replaced, it will go back to 20 minutes per zone, twice a week, as
scheduled with the rest of the timers. At first it was getting stuck to where it would correct itself.
Mr. Leet stated some residents pointed out the sprinklers were maybe running during rain
storms or during the afternoon when the sun is the strongest. Can you tell us what the expectation
is when the sprinklers should be running and when you are responding to the emails of resident
reports if something happens? Can you tell us what residents should expect as a baseline, if
sprinklers are running during a rain event?
Mr. Lomasney stated that should not happen with our rain sensors. A particular part was fixed
previously on an emergency. We need it because we had sod put down. That will have a Rainbird
rain gauge on it. Give me two weeks on that. That is why that particular area happened. During
the wintertime, I do not think it is best to run at night. It promotes fungus early in the morning. in
the winter months, if you see irrigation on in the morning, that is normal. For summertime, it is
the opposite. You want it at night so it sits there a little bit on the roots. The sun will take care of
it from there. It switches twice a year, but it should never be on during the rain. If it does, I will go
over there. It could be a problem, like a branch not going down a couple weeks ago. It was a freak
accident, but when you consider how many trees we have, it is going to happen.
Mr. LeMenager stated the little pocket park behind my house is always being watered during
the day. Your comment about fresh sod makes me wonder if that is actually the staging area for
the alley project. I wonder if they ever changed the timer because it goes off pretty every day in
the afternoon.
Mr. Lomasney asked still?

Mr. LeMenager stated yes.
Mr. Lomasney stated there were two programs on it. A was to go off every single day, and B
is normal.
Mr. LeMenager stated you might want to double check that.
Mr. Lomasney stated I will check it out tomorrow.
Mr. LeMenager stated it makes a very nice, green park.
Mr. Lomasney stated too much water can be a problem, so I need to check that, especially this
time of year.
Mr. Leet stated it sounds like you will stay on top of it. Going over that helps us when we are
communicating with residents, that it is not something that is expected. We can pass those reports
on so they can be fixed.
Mr. Lomasney stated there are quite a lot of timers. In the event that one breaks, it does not
mean the whole system is bad. Right now it is one rain sensor and two valves. I think we are sitting
really well, considering all the work that was done so far, as far as the system.
Mr. Lomasney asked have we been able to look at our most recent water bill to compare?
Ms. Kassel stated it was in the invoices, which I want to discuss several invoices from Toho
Water Authority (“Toho”) when we get to the consent agenda item.
Mr. Chokanis asked is it lower?
Ms. Kassel stated in spots, yes. In other spots, no.
Ms. Phillips stated I was going to start comparing them because some of them, it was due to
broken items. The cost vacillates. It should settle down with all the work you have done.
Mr. Lomasney stated yes. There was also a lot of work on zones that were not working. Some
sprinklers were not operating in an area, but I have noticed other areas where we could probably
reduce some sprinklers.
Ms. Kassel stated these two for zones 0 Harmony Square Drive West and 0 Cat Brier Park,
you can see in August, there was very little usage. Here we had a very small bill of $41, but now
all of a sudden, it is $1,126. The other was $180, and now it is $1,173.
Mr. Lomasney stated this is where that meter was at. Do you remember a while back, there
was a valve we could not locate for a couple months? That was why. It has since been replaced
and has been on a full billing cycle. Three timers are now operating in that area, whereas before,
none were until that issue was resolved.
Ms. Kassel stated this is what I was saying to Ms. Kramer a couple months ago when she said
our water bill was going to go down. We had so many zones that had been turned off. Now we are

getting them fixed, and we have all these zones that are coming back on, and we are spending more
money, not less.
Mr. Lomasney stated we are also going to look at some of the CDD lines that have moved over
the years, where the sprinklers are in the woods. January or February, we can go through them,
maybe start capping some of those and reduce the bills. If we capped 25 sprinklers from watering,
that will save. We will continue to look for ways to reduce the watering.
Mr. Chokanis stated I know we have been keeping the percentage of how complete we are
done on the entire community. Did we get an update what we are looking at right now?
Ms. Kassel stated he just said the irrigation report was completed today at 4:00.
Mr. Lomasney stated it will give the comments and recommendations. In this particular month,
they are all complete.
Ms. Kassel asked so we are at 100% done, except for what has been found to need repair?
Mr. Lomasney stated yes. This is a monthly inspection, so every month, we check the
irrigation. Each timer might have one or two breaks. Whatever they recommend we fix, we do.
That is complete. We are still at what we discussed last month, at 85% to 90% complete with the
whole system.
Ms. Kassel stated we thought that maybe by now, you would be 100%.
Mr. Lomasney stated right, just two valves, and these are just routine sprinklers. Next month,
you will get another one. We will check the same clocks.
Ms. Kassel stated I am still a little confused. Have you gone through the entire irrigation
system? Or are you still at 85% to 90% of looking at the irrigation system?
Mr. Lomasney stated we have looked at all of it. The reason why I have to say 85% to 90% is
because of construction on the highway. They had just put those new buildings in, and they
destroyed the line there. I have three zones that are down completely because of construction.
Therefore, I cannot say 100%.
Mr. Chokanis asked was that recently damaged? Or has that always been?
Mr. Lomasney stated it is because of construction on the highway.
Mr. Chokanis stated potentially we are at 100% at one point in time. Right now as of this
meeting, we are about 85% because of those three areas.
Mr. Lomasney stated yes. What we have operating on all the clocks, the sprinklers are
operating.
Ms. Kassel stated just to clarify, you have gone through 100% of the irrigation system to check
its operational capacity and functionality, but we are currently at 85% to 90% operationally.

Mr. Lomasney stated yes. What is operating includes all the clocks and any sprinklers. As of
today about 4:30, they are complete for this month. Every month, we receive this report, so every
month, we go around to make sure there are no leaks. With this many miles of piping underground
and sprinkler heads, there is bound to be some repairs.
Mr. Leet for Mr. LeMenager’s benefit, in years past, we had a centralized system, Maxicom,
that was at the office. We were told again and again how monumentally expensive it will be to
replace. As Benchmark has stated for the irrigation, they are installing pieces to the system so they
are able to control the timers and everything, not from one central location.
Mr. LeMenager stated the problem with Maxicom was, we never installed the entire system.
We did Maxicom light.
Ms. Kassel stated the developer did.
Mr. LeMenager stated that is true.
Mr. Leet stated we have new equipment that has come in. Repairs, as you hear, are just about
done. Irrigation wise, we should be on much better footing than in the recent past.
i.  Ratification of Proposal #66710 for Emergency Removal of Sycamore Tree
Mr. Leet reviewed proposal #66710 for removal of a sycamore tree on Buttonbush Loop. It
was a safety issue. I went to check it the morning after I discussed it with Mr. Hayes, and it had
already been taken care of and the stump ground. They did that very quickly and took care of the

Ms. Kassel made a MOTION to ratify proposal #66710 from Benchmark Landscaping for emergency removal of a sycamore tree, in the amount of $2,190.
Mr. Leet seconded the motion.

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Mr. Chokanis asked since we are stump grinding this, will Ms. Ash-Mower receive the chips?
Mr. Lomasney stated I will make sure.
ii.  Proposal #66758 for Oak Tree Removal
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Ms. Kassel made a MOTION to approve proposal #66758 from Benchmark Landscaping to remove the leaning oak tree by the animal monument sculpture on Five Oaks Drive, in the amount of
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Mr. Leet stated I was driving by there a week or so ago, and I remember seeing an issue. What
is our sense of how pressing a safety issue this is? I am looking to hear from Benchmark or any of
us Board members. Has anyone looked at it and are we on the same page?
Ms. Kassel stated I think it is more of a safety issue for the sculpture, which is irreplaceable,
than it is an issue for a pedestrian. It is about $2,350, so it is not an expensive proposition. I know
it is on Mr. Lomasney’s mind substantially, and to replace that sculpture would cost a lot more
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Mr. Chokanis stated thanks to Mr. Lomasney for all your hard work in keeping the community
looking good. It is extremely appreciated.
Mr. Leet stated and we appreciate your patience.
Mr. Lomasney stated no problem; I understand.
B. Field Manager: Inframark
i.  Monthly Report
Mr. Baez stated I am the field services supervisor for Harmony. We are doing the pressure
washing of the curbs on Five Oaks Drive. Today, we finished by the first entrance, and we are
working right now on Five Oaks Drive, going to the roundabout between Cat Brier Trail. After we
finish that, we will go down Cat Brier Trail and will continue on Five Oaks Drive to the Swim
Club. We will start grinding next week. We can do about 20 to 30 panels once a week. We have
about 1,200 panels to grind, and we have about 145 panels to replace. We will keep working on
that. We have full crews working three days a week: Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. On the
other four days, we have just two people, plus myself, to make three. We are able to work those
three days with more people. To pressure wash curbs, we need two people because people
sometimes drive crazy. We need one person taking care of the parks, and one doing the pressure

washing. We put out signs, Workers Ahead, so you can see us when we are working near the
streets. We have replaced a few things in the restrooms. We are cleaning the decks all day, the
bathrooms, Ashley Park pool, Buck Lake, and the Swim Club. We are blowing leaves in the pocket
parks. We have replaced two trash cans, and we will keep replacing the ones that are broken during
the month. We are replacing the trash can liners in the parks once a day, but in the pool areas, we
replace them two or three times a week. It is the same at Buck Lake because of so much trash every
time. we have fixed a few tiles at the Swim Club that were loose; we put them together. We
purchased four batteries for the 16-foot Sun Tracker. We installed the basketball court covers. We
have replaced the bench between Sun Drop Street and Blazing Star Lane and put a wood bench
there. We ordered a new umbrella for the Swim Club; it was broken. The dog park gate latch has
been replaced. We installed the sign for Billy’s Trail, so that is complete. The broken grates inside
the Ashley Park pool and the Swim Club, there were two broken ones, and we replaced them. We
changed the oil in the community truck and put on new tires and did the alignment. The filters in
the pools are being cleaned once a week during the winter. During the summer, they will be cleaned
twice. Both pools are being vacuumed two or three times a week. We purchased a volleyball net
but are still waiting on it. The printer in the office is not working, so I purchased a new one. We
are not able to print anything right now. We do not have any resident access cards pending;
everything is up to date.
Mr. Hayes stated in the reservations, I would like to add to that.
Mr. Baez stated we fixed the broken handrail on the wood bridge. We will do a bridge
inspection to see how many bolts we have to replace. If we know how to do it, we will. I do not
like to get another company to do it if we know how.
Mr. Leet asked which bridges are you talking about?
Mr. Baez stated next to Buck Lake.
Ms. Kassel asked the boardwalk?
Mr. Baez stated the bridge.
Mr. Leet asked across the pond?
Mr. Baez stated yes.
Mr. Leet stated those were replaced only a couple months ago.
Mr. Baez stated we replaced the handrail.
Ms. Kassel stated actually, there is one piece of handrail on the first boardwalk that goes from
the back side, on the eastern side that goes to Buck Lake from the back side of the trail. A board
there was just replaced.

Mr. Baez stated I will do an inspection to see how many we have to replace, and we will start
working on it. I will inspect the swings in the playground to see how many are broken and need
replacing. We have a few in the shop, so we can work on that. The Polaris needs to be taken in for
service this month.
Mr. Leet asked do we have an estimated time of arrival on the volleyball net? I know it has
been a couple months now. Do we have an estimate from the vendor?
Mr. Baez stated no, but I will call. Last time, I think they took it to the wrong place. They told
the guys that they have to take it to water place.
A Resident stated he is asking for the arrival of the volleyball net. You have December 6 on
your list. Is that correct?
Mr. Hayes stated to arrive from Amazon.
Mr. LeMenager stated you can just go to Academy Sports and buy a new one. I do not
understand.
Mr. Leet stated that is a fair question. The net we had there, is it available commercially? Is it
something we expect to last longer than something from a store?
Mr. Baez stated the price is about $300 from Academy Sports, and online we can get it for $90
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Mr. LeMenager stated okay, that is a fair answer.
Mr. Baez stated not all the stores remove sales tax. I have to apply online and wait a week for
approval. So we order it online.
Mr. Hayes stated I will give the update on the East Lake tower that was completed.
Ms. Kassel asked the Lakes tower, or the east tower?
Mr. Hayes stated the east entrance tower.
Mr. Leet asked the signs?
Mr. Hayes stated that was pressure washed and there is no other damage.
Mr. Baez stated on the east tower, we pressure washed it and fixed a few rocks on the ground;
we put them together. For the roof, we will rent a lift; the highest section is 35 feet high, and we
cannot reach it with the equipment we have.
Ms. Kassel asked what is your estimate for when that will happen?
Mr. Baez stated when they have finished the streets, I will do it.
Ms. Kassel asked what about the signs on the tower, especially on the south side? The signs
need replacement and need to come down.
Mr. Baez asked do you want to replace them?

Mr. Leet stated yes, it is in the report in the agenda package. If we need to rent equipment to
get to the very top of the tower, it would make sense that we address the signs at the same time.
We tried pressure washing, and they are just old developer signs. Do we have any thoughts on
what should replace it? Right now it has six little panels for commercial or developer things. We
own the sign; we can put whatever we would like on there.
Ms. Phillips stated that is what I told him this afternoon. Can we just paint over those boards?
Or can we put a sheet of something over them?
Mr. Leet stated the mechanics of what kind of sign is replaced, I would say, is secondary to
what do we want. Do we want it to be the Harmony tree logo? Do we want it to be a blank pattern?
What are our thoughts?
Ms. Kassel stated I think the Harmony tree logo is a lovely idea. I do not know what the cost
would be. I do not know how difficult it would be for field services to execute. Apparently, we
used to have five guys, but now you are running with two or three most days.
Mr. Baez stated the full crew is working Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
Ms. Kassel asked and the full crew is three people?
Mr. Baez stated yes, two guys plus me.
Ms. Kassel asked three days a week?
Mr. Baez stated yes.
Ms. Kassel asked and the other four days a week?
Mr. Baez stated Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday we have five.. Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
and Monday are two plus me, so three people.
Ms. Kassel stated I see. This is really a question for Inframark, not for Mr. Baez, in terms of
what our coverage should be versus what it is. I do not really know.
Mr. Leet stated we have a discussion later in the meeting for that.
Ms. Kassel stated right now, for this issue of the sign that was brought up, I do not know if
they can be popped out.
Mr. Chokanis asked can you look at how it is attached, if it is mounted in there, and if we can
paint over it or get something made?
Ms. Kassel stated I think the surface has been cracking. We could paint over it, but it will be a
crackle finish. We could paint over it temporarily so it does not look so horrible. That is an option.
Mr. LeMenager asked do we need it?
Ms. Kassel stated the other two sides, east and west, have signs on them that are in good shape.
It is only the south side that faces U.S. Hwy 192 that looks terrible.

Mr. LeMenager asked I meant, do we need the tower? You saw how fast the other one came
down when they built Harmony West and tore it down. It was advertising put up by the developer.
Mr. Leet stated right, and it is a landmark. I would want to at least try a few things to remedy
how it looks now before tearing the whole thing down.
Mr. LeMenager asked has anyone actually looked at it and determined its structural soundness?
Mr. Leet stated I think that is maybe what we are working toward. On that back side facing
away from the highway is a little, fake window. I am sure it is probably just stucco on plywood or
something like that. What I would not want to do is start digging into the sign issue, remove what
is there, and then we have a gaping, ugly hole that is even worse than what we have now.
Mr. LeMenager stated based on my experience, things that were put up by previous developers
were not necessarily always done with the greatest quality of materials. I am concerned we will
end up throwing good money after bad if it is really shoddy construction on the inside. I am not
sure how we figure that out.
Mr. Leet stated it has a door. Has Mr. Baez or Mr. Hayes been inside? Do we store stuff in
there?
Mr. Baez stated yes.
Mr. LeMenager stated so it does serve a useful purpose.
Mr. Leet asked can we tell from being inside that it is safe to take down the signs that are there
now for the purposes of determining how best to replace it with something new and nice looking?
Mr. Baez stated yes.
Mr. Leet asked are we comfortable with giving that direction to field services to take down the
old informational signs from the developer to evaluate?
Ms. Kassel stated just the ones on the south side for now. Or are you talking about the east and
west sides, as well?
Mr. Leet stated yes, whatever we find out on the south side, I say we apply to everything else.
Mr. Chokanis stated there is no grocery store sign or doctor or hair salon.
Ms. Kassel stated yes, there is.
Mr. Hayes stated I just know that one was really stained even after the cleaning.
Ms. Phillips stated I do not know much about building. Is that stucco? Are they hooked on
there with the wood frame?
Mr. Chokanis stated they are probably anchored from the inside. They might just be wood
panels, or something like that.
Ms. Kassel stated they are all separate.

Mr. Leet asked would we need a motion to give field services direction for the south side, the
worst side facing the highway, to take down the developer informational signs in order to ascertain
what, if anything, can be done moving forward, and at the discretion of field services, maybe a
coat of paint or something to get it in a presentable look?
Mr. Chokanis stated to be honest, if we can get them off, we can pressure wash them and put
them back up until we find out.
Ms. Kassel stated they have been pressure washed,
Mr. Chokanis stated I thought they said they cannot get that high.
Ms. Kassel stated that is for the roof.
Mr. Chokanis asked how close were you at that time?
Mr. Baez stated it was 20 feet down from there. We have an extension pole for pressure
washing that can reach 18 feet, plus our height, which is about 25 feet.
Mr. Chokanis stated fair enough.
Mr. Hayes stated back to Mr. Leet’s question, a motion is not necessary. You are providing
direction to field services to take the south side signs down and paint, which is what I heard, unless
it is something different.
Ms. Kassel stated yes, that sounds good to me.
Mr. Hayes stated Mr. Baez, they are asking to take down the signs on the south side and paint
those.
Mr. Chokanis stated I wonder if it is from all the cars driving fast in the wind.
Ms. Kassel stated no, it is on the south side, so it is from the sun. One item in the agenda
package was the broken cover grate on the pool. It was supposed to be replaced by November 20.
Was that done?
Mr. Baez stated yes.
Ms. Kassel stated we talked about Children at Play signs for several months.
Mr. Baez stated I do not know the locations.
Mr. Satterwhite stated we cannot find any documentation on the locations.
Mr. Baez stated the person who knows the locations no longer works with us.
Ms. Kassel stated contact me. It is where the ribbon curbs were installed. We were going to
put boulders in to prevent people from driving on the ribbon curbs because they were already
starting to crack. These are in the alleys; they are ribbon curbs. Mr. Hamstra also knows where
they are.

Mr. Hamstra stated when we talked about the garbage trucks that were running over the ribbon
curbs and cracking them, we proposed to put some large boulders close to the curbs to prevent
them from going off the road. That was tabled. I will be happy to meet you out there and we can
pick the locations.
Mr. Satterwhite asked we actually have the signs, correct?
Mr. Hayes stated yes. They are ready to install. Staff just needs to know where they are going
in the ground.
Ms. Kassel asked can we also send him photographs of the locations?
Mr. Hamstra stated I already have to come out here for other reasons, so I will meet with him.
Ms. Kassel stated the task spreadsheet, all these things that have been assigned to Inframark,
there was an old task spreadsheet that we were sent in October that was from April. It was supposed
to be updated so the Board and residents can see that tasks that were assigned to field services and
what the status is, when they are complete, where the progress is currently. Are we still waiting
for that?
Mr. Hayes stated if I may interrupt, Mr. Baez and the team put together a sidewalk inspection
report, which is one item that I forwarded to you Board members by email. It has all the locations
for the grinds and panel replacements. What field services is intending to do, as Mr. Baez pointed
out, once he is finished with pressure washing, they are doing one per week now. They will ramp
up grinding and panel replacements after they are finished with pressure washing. That document
will be detailed. It tells you how many need to be done. He is going to update that as they are
completed on that form, and he will provide it to me. You will be getting that on Friday, so you
will get an update on what has been completed for each section and each location.
Ms. Kassel stated but Mr. Hayes, that is just one item of many.
Mr. Hayes stated I am not finished. If I may, what I distributed this evening that I was going
to discuss under my report to you is your dropbox replacement. If you would like to talk about it
now, we can, or we can wait until my report, when I will go into more detail.
Ms. Phillips stated we will wait to discuss that.
Ms. Kassel stated I want to know what is happening with the beehive in the garden. Have they
been taken care of?
Mr. Baez stated they came three times to treat. I went there and hit the hive a few times, and
nothing came out. The next day, it was fully of bees. They said they are not able to handle it. They
are going to call another company to come and check.
Ms. Kassel asked when you say “they,” who is “they?”

989	Mr. Baez stated Massey Services (“Massey”).	
990	Ms. Kassel asked Massey is going to contact another company?	
991	Mr. Baez stated yes.	
992	Ms. Kassel asked what about what we are paying to Massey?	
993	Mr. Hayes stated Massey came out and did the initial treatment. They killed a ton of bees. He	
994	even showed me documented evidence of them being destroyed. Within a few days, they also went	
995	and checked the hives, and nothing. The bees came back. Mr. Baez asked Massey to come back	
996	out to spray again. They came out and did it again. There was more residual kill, but there was still	
997	more bees. They were saying it was a lot larger area than what their scope was. They charged $200	
998	for those treatments. What we were advised from them was they will contact another vendor, or	
999	we can contact another vendor. They gave us a couple options so we can eradicate them for good.	
1000	Ms. Phillips asked do we know what kind of bees they are?	
1001	Mr. Baez stated Africanized bees.	
1002	Ms. Ash-Mower stated they are honey bees.	
1003	Mr. Hayes stated no.	
1004	Ms. Ash-Mower stated today, there were probably 10,000 more in the building on the inside.	
1005	Schoolhouse is filled with bees right now, and they are extremely agitated. I talked with the man	
1006	yesterday, and he said they even attacked his truck, so he got out of there. You do not go and kill	
1007	honey bees with poison because that kills them on contact when it is on the foundation under the	
1008	floor boards. I am extremely disappointed with Massey. They have no idea what they are doing,	
1009	and someone is going to get hurt. It is a mess.	
1010	Mr. Leet stated it sounds like Massey is already referring someone else. I know there are	
1011	apiaries in the area. Without undue cost to the CDD, let us address it.	
1012	Mr. Hayes stated that is the game plan.	
1013	Ms. Ash-Mower stated I gave Mr. Baez the name of five beekeepers who are licensed and	
1014	insured to come out and take care of that, and I got that information from Florida extension	
1015	services. That is what I did initially, and it was ignored.	
1016	Mr. Baez stated no, I called them.	
1017	Ms. Ash-Mower stated that is why I am a little upset.	
1018	Mr. Chokanis stated it sounds like they need to be transported to somewhere else.	
1019	Mr. Baez stated I contacted them, but they do not come here. They are too far away.	
1020	Ms. Ash-Mower stated beekeepers wanted up to $900 to come and remove the hive. We tried	
1021	that route first.	

1022	Mr. Chokanis asked they did not want to come out and do it?	
1023	Ms. Ash-Mower stated you did not want to spend $900.	
1024	Mr. Chokanis stated we already spent $400 on two treatments.	
1025	Mr. Hayes stated it was $200 total.	
1026	Ms. Ash-Mower stated initially, the bees were fine, and we wanted to keep them. Two to three	
1027	months ago, they became extremely agitated, and they attacked four mowers. Three of them had	
1028	to be sent home because they were stung so badly. They also attacked the equipment, so the grass	
1029	has not been mowed. The bees have become more and more agitated, and I am not sure why. In	
1030	the beginning, they were not, and we wanted to keep the bees. But it has become a danger, and we	
1031	cannot have them anymore.	
1032	Mr. Leet stated okay, understood. It is being addressed. Keep us updated on the outcome of	
1033	that.	
1034	Mr. Chokanis stated email the Board with options. If we get a beekeeper to come out, they will	
1035	take the whole hive with them and transport them somewhere else.	
1036	Ms. Phillips stated sounds to me like it is worth $900.	
1037	Mr. Chokanis stated to be honest, I do not think we should kill honey bees for the ecosystem.	
1038	Mr. Leet stated that would be my choice, as well.	
1039	Ms. Phillips asked do we need to approve that expense?	
1040	Ms. Kassel stated no, that is included in our payment policy.	
1041	Mr. Leet stated yes, the Chairman has the ability to authorize expenditures, as needed and	
1042	things come up, within certain parameters.	
1043	Ms. Phillips stated right, and I do not think they should have to wait until next month.	
1044	Mr. Leet stated it is in process, and options are coming. We are all very interested, and we	
1045	want to hear the outcomes. Keep us updated.	
1046	Ms. Kassel stated the splash pad, we just got some videos that it was working. We got a video	
1047	that it was operational. We got a video of some plumbing or pipes that had been repaired, but we	
1048	do not know at this point because we have not gotten an update as to whether or not it will be	
1049	dancing. Is it just going to be what it is? Does it need more repairs? Does something with the	
1050	variable frequency drive need to happen to make the system dance? Is it recommended not to have	
1051	it dance? I would like an update. We saw it running and some plumbing was fixed, but apparently,	
1052	there was a leak where they do not repair, and we have not heard anything about whether that was	
1053	addressed or not.	

1054	Mr. Hayes stated the videos I sent to the Board members was an update to show you from their	
1055	services on November 24, to show they came out and replaced the motor because of the water	
1056	damage. They addressed the leaks that were in the vault at that time. There is still one left that is	
1057	around the actual filter housing, which Moe was going to address on his next visit. They are having	
1058	to provide us with a chlorinator estimate to replace that. At the same time, they are going to provide	
1059	training for onsite staff, and Mr. Chokanis will be involved in that. As far as the dancing comment,	
1060	that should be addressed when Moe comes back to do that final thing with the filter housing. It has	
1061	something to do with the operation of the dancing, is what was explained to me by the vendor.	
1062	Ms. Kassel stated I see. It would have been great when you sent the videos if you could have	
1063	made that update, too, so we did not have to spend time on it today.	
1064	Mr. Hayes stated I just got it today, so I thought I would share it with you tonight.	
1065	Ms. Kassel asked the outfalls that were clogged on Five Oaks Drive and Cat Brier Trail, have	
1066	they been done? This is pertaining to the flooding.	
1067	Mr. Hamstra stated that is in my report.	
1068	Ms. Kassel stated but field services was supposed to clean some of the areas.	
1069	Mr. Hamstra stated it is a little more involved. I will get to it under my report. I can answer it	
1070	now, but it is in my report.	
1071	Ms. Kassel stated in the last meeting, you requested field services to take a look at the outfalls	
1072	and the areas where was had accumulated, and you suggested they clean them up.	
1073	Mr. Hamstra stated yes, it is more than they could undertake. I am getting quotes from different	
1074	vendors to undertake that kind of work.	
1075	Ms. Kassel stated thank you. Someone, maybe Mr. Hayes, was supposed to check with Osceola	
1076	County (“County”) about cleaning the storm drains.	
1077	Mr. Hamstra stated that was after we did the camera work, which is a two-part answer. I will	
1078	talk about that under my report.	
1079	Mr. Hayes stated it is in the engineer’s report.	
1080	Ms. Kassel asked is the garden shed in your report? Or is that for field services or the District	
1081	manager?	
1082	Mr. Hamstra stated I think there are issues with the contractor still unwilling to sign the	
1083	contract, so we cannot get the schedule resolved.	
1084	Ms. Kassel stated I thought we were going to look for another shed provider.	
1085	Mr. Hamstra stated I was not aware of that.	

1086	Mr. Hayes stated that was not the direction of the Board. It was tabled at the last meeting	
1087	because the vendor was unwilling to sign the contract with the language that was put in the	
1088	agreement. I have checked with four vendors at this point. They pointed out they do not make	
1089	buildings this small. They were not willing to sign the agreement. The Board also did not like the	
1090	design or what they were going to do if we were not going to build it ourselves. Remember, it	
1091	would have been a kit.	
1092	Ms. Kassel stated yes. I will have to look back at the minutes again, but I thought we suggested	
1093	to look into other providers of garden sheds. I thought that is what we directed the manager and	
1094	field services to look into.	
1095	Mr. Leet stated we are saying it was tabled from last month. Mr. Hayes was saying he has	
1096	looked at other sources, and for contracting reasons or aesthetic reasons, we are not allowable.	
1097	What are our thoughts as a Board to maybe consider proceeding with the quote we already have,	
1098	knowing we have to make changes to the legal wording in our contract to do that? I would like	
1099	Mr. LeMenager’s thoughts on that. This is for a shed, which we are allowed to have in the garden	
1100	area for gardening- and field services-related uses.	
1101	Mr. LeMenager asked this is in the garden area?	
1102	Mr. Leet stated yes. We had estimates for a simple, prefabricated steel building. I believe field	
1103	services would have done the pad for it. We had a vendor and a quote, but they were not in favor	
1104	of the contract that we wanted them to sign. They would not commit to any kind of delivery date.	
1105	I think we asked for 60 days.	
1106	Mr. Eckert stated yes, we were very flexible on the dates they were looking at, but they refused	
1107	to sign a contract that had any delivery date that they would be held to, but they wanted money up	
1108	front.	
1109	Mr. LeMenager asked how big is the shed?	
1110	Ms. Kassel stated 12 feet by 20 feet.	
1111	Mr. Hayes stated it is 240 square feet, which is the maximum that the County would allow.	
1112	Mr. LeMenager asked what is the largest you can get at Home Depot?	
1113	Ms. Kassel stated in the minutes from last month, it says starting on line 1112, “Ms. Kramer	
1114	stated I gave Mr. Hayes today a lead on a local government that just constructed this type of	
1115	building, albeit a little bit larger. But we are looking for both our community maintenance facility	
1116	and the garden shed. Let us see what he finds out who they worked with and how they were to	
1117	work with. I am much more comfortable hearing from the experience of another local government	

1118	and how their project went, versus jumping to this company, that we know nothing about, for the	
1119	leeway.” Ms. Kramer indicated she gave you a lead to call on.	
1120	Mr. Hayes stated I recall now an email that you are stating. No, it was for a county municipality	
1121	for a building for a fire truck. It is a huge building. I did not get any information on that, but I	
1122	suspect it will be the same as the other vendors that I brought to this Board that are not going to	
1123	do a shed that is 12x20 or 240 square feet. I will get a definitive answer and share that with the	
1124	Board.	
1125	Mr. LeMenager asked how much are we talking about spending?	
1126	Mr. Chokanis stated about $10,000.	
1127	Mr. LeMenager stated again, I go back. Why not just go to Home Depot and buy two sheds?	
1128	Mr. Hayes stated it was a $5,000 estimate, and they wanted a metal shed versus wood.	
1129	Mr. LeMenager stated they sell metal sheds.	
1130	Mr. Leet stated yes, they sell metal sheds, maybe not all in the store. We are getting this	
1131	runaround from different vendors. Are we sure it is something we are already saying we would be	
1132	doing the pad ourselves? Are we saying it is beyond what field services can do and another	
1133	contractor has to come in?	
1134	Ms. Kassel stated a licensed, insured contractor who also happens to be a resident would	
1135	probably be happy to install the garden shed, once field services has created a pad.	
1136	Mr. Leet asked are we comfortable as a Board giving direction to the manager?	
1137	Ms. Kassel stated let us hear from field services if that is something they can handle.	
1138	Mr. Hayes asked so you are saying to buy a kit and let field services erect it for the CDD? That	
1139	is something you were opposed to months ago.	
1140	Ms. Kassel stated no, not field services. Ask a contractor to erect it. Field services would put	
1141	in the pad.	
1142	Mr. Hayes stated it would be no different than Carports Anywhere. It would come in, they	
1143	would erect the building, and they would provide the engineering drawings, where we are	
1144	unnecessary, so that you could get permits to actually build it.	
1145	Mr. Leet asked what is stopping that from happening?	
1146	Mr. Hamstra stated submission for a permit.	
1147	Ms. Kassel stated if we buy something at Home Depot, we have no engineering drawings to	
1148	submit for a permit. Do we need that for a garden shed?	
1149	Mr. Hamstra stated yes. I would have to call the County directly to see what the restrictions	
1150	are.	

1151	Ms. Phillips stated I just pulled up Home Depot, and the biggest they have is 12 feet, so we	
1152	can get two of them and somehow configure them. They are $2,500 each.	
1153	Mr. Hayes stated you have a maximum of 240 square feet. If you buy two, you will be over	
1154	the limit the County required.	
1155	Ms. Phillips stated I was just pointing out that we would not be saving any money.	
1156	Mr. Hayes stated no.	
1157	Mr. LeMenager stated but you would get the job done. That is my point. Why do we make	
1158	things too complicated?	
1159	Ms. Phillips stated I am still not so sure why we cannot just have it built. Look how fast those	
1160	townhomes are going.	
1161	Mr. Leet asked if we went with the quote we already received, what is the worst-case outcome?	
1162	Ms. Kassel stated let us ask Mr. Eckert.	
1163	Mr. Eckert stated the worst case is you pay the money up front, you never get delivery, and	
1164	you never sue the person because it will cost you more to get it enforced than the money you will	
1165	get back.	
1166	Mr. Leet stated this is not wish.com. This is a reputable vendor that is in the area and is licensed,	
1167	that we have some kind of recourse maybe.	
1168	Mr. Hayes stated if I remember correctly, do not quote me on this, but I think it was	
1169	Jacksonville this outfit was out of because they manufacture them and make them. If you recall	
1170	why this took so long, we were going through a project management company. Then that switched	
1171	to Carports Anywhere, who actually manufactures and brings them and installs. That price I was	
1172	quoting was the balance due after the deposit, so it $6,307.50 you were considering.	
1173	Ms. Phillips asked what company was that with?	
1174	Mr. Hayes stated it was with Carports Anywhere, for a commercial building.	
1175	Mr. Leet asked do we just want to pull the trigger?	
1176	Mr. Hayes stated I cannot guarantee the price will be the same.	
1177	Mr. Leet stated it has been more than 90 days. Did they have a timeframe on their quote? It	
1178	has probably been longer than three months.	
1179	Mr. Hayes stated it has been going on for several months.	
1180	Ms. Kassel stated 86 global reviews, 3.5 stars.	
1181	Mr. Leet asked what is our direction?	
1182	Ms. Kassel stated they have an A- rating on the Better Business Bureau (“BBB”).	
1183	Mr. Leet asked what would the manager’s recommendation be?	

1184	Mr. Hayes stated my recommendation is what counsel has said. I will repeat what he said, and	
1185	I will let him chime in. Mr. Eckert said it is up to you Board members in how comfortable you feel	
1186	with the language that was written in the contract. They can edit again, but he told you the possible	
1187	recourse of taking that language out of the contract. It is your decision as a Board.	
1188	Ms. Phillips asked how much was that for?	
1189	Mr. Hayes stated $6,307.50. That was the amount for that shed.	
1190	Ms. Phillips stated even if we lost that.	
1191	Mr. Hayes stated it is not a $100,000 shed.	
1192	Ms. Phillips stated if that gets the ball rolling, it gets us taken care of.	
1193	Mr. LeMenager asked what are the County requirements in terms of getting a permit?	
1194	Mr. Hamstra stated I will call tomorrow.	
1195	Mr. LeMenager stated we are going for a building that is 12x20. Would you still need a	
1196	building permit for something that is 12x10?	
1197	Mr. Hamstra stated I will need to call. I do not want to speculate. Every city and county I work	
1198	with is different.	
1199	Ms. Kassel stated here is the thing about a smaller building. Part of the purpose for this building	
1200	was to temporarily store some CDD materials until a maintenance facility is built. That is one of	
1201	the reasons we wanted the garden shed to be 12x20. That is why it is a bigger issue. I would say	
1202	to move ahead with Carports Anywhere. They have an A- rating on BBB.	
1203	Mr. Leet asked do we need a motion for that?	
1204	Mr. Hayes stated no, you just provide direction to counsel, and he is on by Zoom. You would	
1205	be asking him to further revise the contractual agreement that they put together, removing that	
1206	language that was the barrier, provide it to the manager, who in turn will work with the vendor to	
1207	see if we can get it signed by them, and I will send it to the Chairman or Vice Chairman for	
1208	signature with your approval. We can move ahead with the deposit, and I can provide more	
1209	updates.	
1210	Mr. LeMenager asked do we have an estimated timeline for the permanent solution?	
1211	Mr. Leet stated I am guessing that will be in the engineer’s report.	
1212	Mr. Hamstra stated I will call tomorrow and send any answers to Mr. Hayes so he can update	
1213	the Board members.	
1214	Mr. LeMenager stated I meant for other facility. Ms. Kassel said one of the reasons we wanted	
1215	to go with the 12x20 shed is because we want a place to temporarily store some things. The	
1216	question is, how long is temporary?	

1217	Mr. Hamstra stated that is the number-one item for my report.	
1218	Mr. Leet asked does Mr. Eckert need any other direction or clarification?	
1219	Mr. Eckert stated I am hearing a consensus of the Board that they want to remove the language	
1220	that requires them to deliver a product within any given period of time. Based on the consensus, I	
1221	will remove that language.	
1222	Ms. Kassel stated I have two Supervisor requests that have to do with field services, but I will	
1223	bring those up later.	
1224	C. District Engineer: Pegasus	
1225	i.	Discussion Regarding Maintenance Facility	
1226	Mr. Hamstra stated I mean no disrespect to the former Chairman. With the new composition	
1227	and personalities, before I spend any more time or money on the CDD maintenance facility, is the	
1228	Board still on board with moving forward with the proposed location? Or is there a discussion to	
1229	consider different options? Depending on your answer, then I will talk about the location and plans	
1230	we are working on.	
1231	Mr. Leet stated I know it was mentioned that Garden Road was starting to show some signs of	
1232	wear and tear and add maybe additional fill placed on it. I know the engineer did an analysis back	
1233	when we were looking at trying to maintain that, for the stability of the road and what will be	
1234	required to keep the RV lot open. In light of things we have seen with incoming developers	
1235	potentially building a road that will also go to that area, would any of the conversation change if	
1236	we went strictly, only for purposes of the CDD office, having a structure near where we had it	
1237	before? Would the requirements for stabilizing that road be any different if we are not talking	
1238	about an RV lot being there? People are saying they are not happy about the proposed location. I	
1239	want to make sure we have done everything we can to make sure there is not a way to maybe do	
1240	that existing road and a different location without an exorbitant cost to the CDD. Does anything	
1241	change?	
1242	Mr. Hamstra stated when you were considering that location, it was always hooked to the RV	
1243	lot. The fire department required a paved surface, which is in contradiction to what Florida Gas	
1244	Transmission (“FGT”) would allow because of their transmission lines.	
1245	Mr. Leet stated right.	
1246	Mr. Hamstra stated I am not sure that situation will have changed. I do not know if you want	
1247	to stick with the lakefront or go back to Plan B or if there is a Plan C that the new Board wants to	
1248	consider. Otherwise, I will finalize the site development plans to the County and get that ball	
1249	rolling, but I do not want to do it with the new composition of the Board if there is a new intention	
1250	of what you want to do.	

1251	Ms. Phillips stated I am in favor of keeping it at the lakefront.	
1252	Mr. Leet stated I go to what Mr. Janeczek said at the beginning of the meeting. I believe the	
1253	direction had been to not use the existing pad, that we would be going with a new pad. Is that	
1254	correct?	
1255	Mr. Hamstra stated if you are going to put it at the lakefront, that pad will not work. We will	
1256	need to break it up and put in a new one.	
1257	Mr. Leet asked for that new pad, is that a fixed location? Is that something we still have some	
1258	discretion over?	
1259	Mr. Hamstra stated it is time to talk about moving it. That will segue into talking about the	
1260	building size, which we will discuss later.	
1261	Ms. Kassel asked would there be additional costs incurred if the site for the pad was moved	
1262	farther back from the trail?	
1263	Mr. Hamstra stated no, not at this point. We are just moving a box in a planned use. We will	
1264	break up the concrete because it is not good for the new building. Whether we poured it 15 or 20	
1265	or 50 feet off the pad, now is the best time to do it before the plans are finalized.	
1266	Ms. Kassel asked but it is not going to require any grading or fill or anything like that?	
1267	Mr. Hamstra stated not fill, but there may be some regrading to get a level platform.	
1268	Ms. Kassel asked what kind of cost are we looking at?	
1269	Mr. Hamstra stated let me jump ahead then. At first, we were looking at a 16x45x12 building	
1270	with a lean-to. We also got quotes when Mr. Brett Perez was here for 25x45 with different widths	
1271	for the lean-to. If you are going to move it, you also want to go with a bigger building for field	
1272	services. We had three quotes at the time, and the Board went with the cheaper version to try to	
1273	squeeze it on that existing pad. Even when I had people out there doing my field work, someone	
1274	said they sure hope we are not putting it there. I said they need to come to the Board and voice	
1275	their concern, but they never showed up. If we are going to move it, you want to revisit the size of	
1276	the building, as well.	
1277	Ms. Kassel asked what is the total all-in cost for 25x45?	
1278	Mr. Hamstra stated for the building only, it goes from basically $18,000, which is proposed	
1279	now that the Board agreed upon a couple months ago, to the next size up that we were going to put	
1280	on the other sites at about $25,000, or about a $7,000 or $8,000 difference.	
1281	Ms. Kassel stated when I say all in, I do not mean just for the building. I mean for any additional	
1282	sitework or anything additional that the CDD would be paying for the facility beyond that $8,000.	

1283	Mr. Hamstra stated I had not spent too much time on it. I did not know what this new Board	
1284	was going to do.	
1285	Mr. Chokanis stated I am curious, too. We were at about $100,000 for the lakefront site, and	
1286	about $300,000 for the other site.	
1287	Ms. Kassel stated yes.	
1288	Mr. Chokanis stated I would be curious to see how much that increases the overall cost.	
1289	Mr. Leet stated we already established there is going to be a new pad. We know the difference	
1290	in cost of the building goes from $18,000 to $25,000. A slightly larger pad does not seem like it	
1291	will be a multiplier to the cost.	
1292	Ms. Kassel asked what is the cost of putting in a 25-foot by 45-foot pad? We are going to have	
1293	to remove the old one, anyway.	
1294	Mr. Hamstra stated I am trying to get a consensus. Do you want to stick with the lakefront, do	
1295	you want to move away from the trail, and do you want a bigger building? Then I can come back	
1296	with revised numbers.	
1297	Ms. Kassel stated we do not really want to keep putting it off, but in order for us to make a	
1298	decision, we need to have numbers. That is why we are asking these questions. If we put it on the	
1299	Buck Lake site, which no one really wants to put it there, but it seemed originally to be a lot more	
1300	cost effective to use that site and put it there. Now we are running into complications, like the old	
1301	pad has to be broken up and removed, and a new pad has to be installed. It was originally $100,000.	
1302	Are we now talking about $150,000 or $110,000 or $175,000? We are just trying to get an idea	
1303	before we make a decision about where to put it.	
1304	Mr. Hamstra stated if you are going with a bigger building and a little more concrete, you are	
1305	probably going up to $150,000.	
1306	Mr. LeMenager stated that is still less than half the price of the other site.	
1307	Ms. Phillips stated the other site was going to have problems because of the land and the	
1308	parking, too.	
1309	Mr. Leet stated there is an easement and some unanswered questions.	
1310	Mr. Hamstra stated it is tight, but you have a bigger building, paved parking areas, dedicated	
1311	facility, and a restroom. It is not quite an apples-to-apples comparison, but it is probably double	
1312	the cost. Obviously from comments at prior meetings, both from the public and the Board, there	
1313	was some uncertainty. I just do not want to go forward at the County if there is a potential. If not,	
1314	I will give you a new number at the next meeting in three or four weeks with a bigger footprint	
1315	and a relocated footprint, whether it is $140,000 or $150,000 or whatever the number will be.	

1316	Ms. Phillips stated I think we are beating this thing to death. I think a decision just needs to be	
1317	made. None of us want it to be there, and none of us want to spend the money, but we need a	
1318	facility. That is really the only place to put it right now, to have something done because we are	
1319	still on borrowed time with the County.	
1320	Mr. Hamstra stated correct.	
1321	Ms. Phillips stated I think we should pick one at a not-to-exceed dollar amount. I am not an	
1322	engineer, so I am not going to understand those things anyway, like what kind of concrete to pour	
1323	and this mixture that things have to be. At some point, we have to trust what the experts tell us.	
1324	Mr. Hamstra asked how far back do you want to move the building from the sidewalk?	
1325	Mr. Chokanis asked also with the increase in size, it will still be able to be transportable to be	
1326	moved to a different location?	
1327	Mr. Hamstra stated yes, I think so. We move houses from Smyrna Beach and are elevating	
1328	them, so we can definitely move a shed.	
1329	Mr. LeMenager stated that might be a saving grace. Where is the maintenance for the golf	
1330	course?	
1331	Mr. Leet stated that is also off Five Oaks Drive.	
1332	Mr. LeMenager stated that is what I thought. Any possibility we can share with them?	
1333	Mr. Leet stated we talked with them. That was several months ago, and they wanted a fair	
1334	market price. Apparently they may be willing to sell, if my understanding is correct.	
1335	Mr. Hayes stated when I talked with the golf course at the Board’s direction, they said it was	
1336	a definitive no. They did not have any space. They were not interested in that. They have landscape	
1337	companies and residents who want to park RVs there. They were not going to entertain that.	
1338	Mr. Leet stated the limitations for using the previous area: (1) we would have to undertake	
1339	another planned development (“PD”) amendment with the County to hopefully get approval to	
1340	have a permanent facility back there, (2) the fire department wants a hammerhead to be able to	
1341	turn around, and 3) we have to hope they would be okay to grandfather us in with a rock-paved	
1342	road with FGT will not let us do a hard pave over it.	
1343	Ms. Phillips asked was there some talk about coming in from the other side when that other	
1344	part gets developed?	
1345	Mr. Leet stated yes, that is what I mentioned earlier. The information in the trade paper the	
1346	other day shows a road going right through that front portion and would only have to cross the	
1347	pipeline, which happens in many other places. That would be a far less expensive permanent option	
1348	once that surrounding development is complete, if it is in any way, shape, or form resembling what	

1349	was in the trade papers. I do not know if Mr. Hamstra or Mr. Hayes will have any patience with	
1350	us considering on a temporary basis to use this grandfathered road that has survived this pipeline	
1351	and easement work that has been going on for the last few months and would only be used for the	
1352	CDD. It would be public use but not RV lot use, with the understanding that a permanent solution	
1353	would be that we plan to have access be from whatever new development comes in front of it. Do	
1354	we think the County will have any patience and have that conversation with us, knowing it would	
1355	be a PD amendment and temporary agreement to use the roads in their current condition—	
1356	hammerhead, dirt road, parking, whatever—and the permanent solution would be when the	
1357	development fills in around it.	
1358	Mr. Hamstra stated my guess is, we are on borrowed time with the County. They have been	
1359	cooperative, but I think we are hanging our hat on a development, and who knows what is going	
1360	to happen with their permitting and opposition from the public. If we tie it to that, it could be a	
1361	year easily. I do not know how much we can pull that rubber band with the County.	
1362	Ms. Kassel stated also, I wonder if there is sufficient room down there. I know the garden shed	
1363	was looked to be pushed back because the road floods. I do not know that there is sufficient room	
1364	down there.	
1365	Mr. Leet stated it will still cost more. It seems like it would cost more in terms of just the site	
1366	preparation required in addition to the building.	
1367	Ms. Kassel stated to me, it seems like we should just continue on the path we are on with a	
1368	slightly bigger building. It will cost more, but I think it will be worthwhile in the end. That building	
1369	is movable. If and when that development does come in and there is a road, then we can talk about	
1370	moving the building to that location. I do not think we should ask the County.	
1371	Mr. LeMenager asked can we put it as far back as possible?	
1372	Ms. Kassel stated I do not know how much room we will have.	
1373	Mr. Leet stated the tradeoff is field services getting their vehicles in and out. Are we planning	
1374	on them accessing from the parking lot from the road out to the lake? If we were to move it and	
1375	stick it back in the corner as far away from intruding on the green space as we can, that is not too	
1376	bad a tradeoff, right?	
1377	Mr. Hamstra stated the plan is, when you pull in from Lakefront Park, you take a left to go to	
1378	the unpaved area. To the right is the old paved parking lot. The dumpster, which will be required,	
1379	will be on that paved portion. I know you will see a dumpster, but you can enclose it or put	
1380	vegetation around it. That has to go on the paved portion. To answer your question, we can move	
1381	it quite a bit. That is all green space back there. I can bring a big aerial map, and we can get our	

1382	plans and pins out, and we can take direction where you would like to have it. That all goes toward	
1383	the cost.	
1384	Ms. Phillips stated that is the cheapest place to put it.	
1385	Mr. Hamstra stated the cheapest place is where the pad is now.	
1386	Ms. Kassel stated if Mr. Hamstra is going to be out here, let me know when and I will meet	
1387	you there. We can take some pictures. I know you want to move this forward now, but we do not	
1388	really know what we are looking at.	
1389	Ms. Phillips stated however, we have an engineer who can pick the best spot for us.	
1390	Mr. Hamstra stated what I would choose from an engineering standpoint versus what the public	
1391	would like to see is two different things.	
1392	Mr. Leet stated you would probably want to put it up high and dry next to the parking lot.	
1393	Mr. Hamstra stated yes, if I could, but it does drop off quickly at the edge of the parking lot. I	
1394	have walked it. Once it drops off a good two feet, then it does level off for quite a bit.	
1395	Mr. Leet asked so you would want it on that middle tier, not all the way down to the wetland	
1396	level?	
1397	Mr. Hamstra stated yes, the middle tier if you want to call it that, between the fence that has	
1398	the abandoned electrical components.	
1399	Ms. Kassel stated I think the idea that is coming from the Board is that we want it as reasonably	
1400	and inexpensively farther back from the Buck Lake path, if that makes sense.	
1401	Mr. Leet stated on that level Mr. Hamstra described, but as far north and east as it will fit, so	
1402	it is the least intrusive on the park and open space right there.	
1403	Mr. Hamstra stated it will just be a longer walk to the restrooms. Is the consensus on a bit	
1404	larger building? Not a skinnier one, but do you want to go one size larger when I give you the new	
1405	costs next month?	
1406	Mr. Leet stated I think so.	
1407	Ms. Kassel stated I think we would like to know what it will cost.	
1408	Mr. Hayes stated so a 25x45x12.	
1409	Mr. Hamstra stated yes. There will be an additional cost for the concrete pad, the additional	
1410	cost of the sidewalk to move it, the regrading that goes with moving it as far back as we can	
1411	practically. I cannot move the dumpster, unfortunately, to the other parking lot, so it will have to	
1412	go on that pad.	
1413	Ms. Kassel stated obviously, it will need more fencing and more landscaping because it will	
1414	be wider.	

1415	Mr. Hamstra stated I will be out here Sunday morning doing other things, so I can call you. If	
1416	you want to meet me out here, that is fine.	
1417	Ms. Kassel asked what time? I have a program at the ranch on Sunday.	
1418	Mr. Hamstra stated I can do my other CDDs first and come here last. I can flip flop the order.	
1419	Tell me what time works.	
1420	Ms. Kassel stated my program goes from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. on Sunday.	
1421	Mr. Hamstra asked can you meet at 9:00 a.m. or 8:30 a.m.?	
1422	Ms. Kassel stated maybe. I will be at the ranch getting everything ready.	
1423	Mr. Hamstra stated let me know if 8:30 or 9:00 works. It should not take long.	
1424	Ms. Kassel stated please reach out to me.	
1425	ii.  Discussion Regarding Old World Climbing Fern Program	
1426	Mr. Hamstra stated I talked with Ms. Catherine Bowman today regarding your Old World	
1427	climbing fern program. She inspected three of the monitoring stations, and said the three of them	
1428	actually looked pretty good. There is regrowth, which is not surprising, but Mr. Brad Vinson is	
1429	doing a good job staying on top of it. What she did see yesterday is a little bit concerning. At the	
1430	end of the driving range on the right-hand side is a water plant. I do not know who, whether	
1431	Benchmark, the golf course, or who, but there is a huge landscape debris pile forming and being	
1432	dumped into the wetland. We need to find out who is using that area for a dump site. We need to	
1433	get that out of there. While she was back there looking into this new situation, we do have an Old	
1434	World climbing fern issue forming there quickly. I can get her to provide a quote from an aquatic	
1435	company to look at that area. Someone needs to look into who is dumping stuff there. We have to	
1436	get it out.	
1437	Mr. Chokanis stated it is probably the golf course.	
1438	Ms. Kassel stated I am guessing.	
1439	Mr. Chokanis stated I do not even think Benchmark can get back there. I know where it is; I	
1440	play golf on that course. It is way back by the driving range in the corner between the seventh hole	
1441	and the driving range.	
1442	Mr. Hayes stated if Mr. Hamstra could provide me with what she has for the logistics, that	
1443	would be helpful.	
1444	Mr. Hamstra stated yes.	
1445	Mr. Chokanis asked it is in the pond?	
1446	Mr. Hamstra stated she said it is actually being dumped in the bigger wetland.	
1447	Ms. Kassel stated maybe it is a different area than Mr. Chokanis described.	

1448	iii.  Discussion Regarding Storm Sewer Investigation	
1449	Mr. Hamstra stated my next item is the Five Oaks Drive and Cat Brier Trail storm sewer	
1450	investigation. I tried to get a quote from Atlantic Pipe Services, who has been doing all our closed-	
1451	circuit televising (“CCTV”) inspection of the pipes. I guess lately they have been getting burned	
1452	on pipes that are submerged underwater at all times. I am guessing what they may find when they	
1453	go in there. Their bids are coming in a lot higher than I am used to, maybe because of lessons	
1454	learned. They asked if you can make sure the outlet pipe is free and unobstructed. Then they would	
1455	feel better putting their plug on there, pumping the pipe well dry, and running a camera through	
1456	there. I went out there about two weeks ago. I went to see the one at Five Oaks Drive, which looks	
1457	like it is almost entirely buried in sediment. I asked Mr. Hayes if Inframark was comfortable getting	
1458	a small backhoe or getting back there and getting the sediments out. I then went to someone we	
1459	have been using for quite a while for all my CDD work, P.J. with Element Environmental. He said	
1460	he would give me a proposal. I was hoping to get it today. He will give me a proposal to do	
1461	sediment removal. Then Atlantic Pipe Services can give me a solid number to CCTV inspect the	
1462	two storm sewer systems that have the observed and localized flooding issues we talked about two	
1463	meetings ago.	
1464	Mr. Leet stated riddle me this. If we get that proposal, which is mandatory work that those	
1465	outflows need to be cleaned out, there is a chance that is the issue right there.	
1466	Mr. Hamstra stated agree, if it is really bad.	
1467	Mr. Leet asked depending on that outcome, would there be a risk in waiting to see what	
1468	happens after the next rain event?	
1469	Mr. Hamstra stated it will not get any worse.	
1470	Mr. Leet stated right, it will not fill in and cave in right away.	
1471	Mr. Hamstra stated right.	
1472	Mr. Leet stated yes, move forward in getting that proposal.	
1473	Mr. Chokanis asked did we discuss asking the County to split it with us or something?	
1474	Mr. Hamstra stated we did not have a model problem on Cat Brier Trail. That is why I am more	
1475	concerned it is the outlets. We have a model problem on Five Oaks Drive, but again from what I	
1476	saw in that pipe being almost entirely buried, I think it will go a long way just to get that blown	
1477	out and cleaned, put some riprap around it, and protect it moving forward. Maybe we do not need	
1478	to do any CCTV work or any coordination with the County on discussion of costs. On Cat Brier	
1479	Trail, I had asked Mr. Hayes or Benchmark, there is a control structure stuck in the corner on the	
1480	golf course side, completely surrounded by littoral plants that I could not physically get to. I simply	

1481	asked Mr. Hayes or Benchmark if they could clear a five-foot diameter area around that area so I	
1482	can look at the structure. Inframark is going to do me a favor on the other control structure for Five	
1483	Oaks Drive. There is a hole in the box that controls the lake level with about a twelve-inch-thick	
1484	matting of pine needles. I took my boot and cleared it, but I asked Mr. Hayes if his guys can take	
1485	it all out. It is not a big area.	
1486	Mr. Hayes stated Mr. Baez and his team will address that.	
1487	Ms. Kassel stated there is also an outfall or a drain with a grate on the backside behind Dark	
1488	Sky Drive leading to Buck Lake, the back side of the pond there. A little tree is growing out of it,	
1489	and it always has water in it, even when it is dry. I am wondering if that needs to be looked at, as	
1490	well.	
1491	Mr. Hamstra stated those are called bubble-up structures. The way it is designed is, the water	
1492	in the pond will fill up, go through the pipe, come out at the top of the structure, and sheet flow	
1493	into the wetland. Every time you look in there, you should see water at all times. It will vary	
1494	throughout the year.	
1495	Ms. Kassel stated it is covered in water. It is not bleeding off.	
1496	Mr. Leet asked should that be the lake level?	
1497	Mr. Hamstra stated no, there should be a swale, and then it sheet flows into the wetland. I will	
1498	look at it when I am out here. I know where they are at. There are three or four of them.	
1499	Ms. Kassel stated behind Dark Sky Drive. The loop that goes around the back of the pond,	
1500	there is an outlet that comes from that pond and goes toward Buck Lake that is always under water.	
1501	Mr. Hamstra stated then there are four with the same design. Water goes through the structure,	
1502	back up to the wetland, and it is supposed to sheet flow. I will look at those when I am out here.	
1503	iv.  Miscellaneous Items	
1504	Mr. Leet stated I know through the interlocal agreement that the pond and canal treatment is	
1505	happening or happened recently in the canals behind Harmony West CDD (“Harmony West”). For	
1506	everyone’s benefit, they own Buck Lake and the canals. We have an interlocal agreement for the	
1507	maintenance thereof. My question while we are talking about drainage and everything. The	
1508	drainage canal, which partially comes through our CDD property and then runs through Harmony	
1509	West property, you can almost walk on it. That canal is extremely vegetated. Is there any point	
1510	where we need to be concerned? That drainage structure is part of the lake and the entire system.	
1511	Is there a point where would need to coordinate with Harmony West? When should we be worried	
1512	about it?	
1513	Mr. Hamstra stated I would have to see it.	

1514	Mr. Leet stated if you are looking at the drain, the canal is right there, too.	
1515	Mr. Hamstra stated I knew we might have a new Chairman tonight, so I brought maps that may	
1516	be helpful. One is a drainage map, and one is a landscape map for the whole community.	
1517	D. District Counsel: Kutak Rock	
1518	Mr. Eckert stated let me start out by welcoming Mr. LeMenager to the Board. I would ask that	
1519	Mr. Hayes provide to Mr. LeMenager after the meeting my cell phone number, and I will ask Mr.	
1520	LeMenager to call me when you get a chance. We can talk through some of the stuff that we have	
1521	been working on from a legal perspective. Ms. Kate John from our office also works with the	
1522	CDD, and that is another name you may hear. I look forward to talking with you on the phone	
1523	some time after the meeting.	
1524	i.	Potential Spending Authorization Resolution to Supplement Procurement Policy	
1525	Mr. Eckert stated this is something I worked on with the prior Chairman. I wanted to find out	
1526	if the Board had any interest in looking at your current procurement policies that you have and	
1527	marrying them into some form of spending authorization resolution. We have deferred this item a	
1528	couple times, and you can certainly defer it another month to give the new Chairman time to look	
1529	at that, or the direction the Board would like me to do. The direction I am hopefully looking for	
1530	from the Board is, if you want me to try to develop the marrying of this resolution and the policies,	
1531	or if you would like me just set them to the side for now and not look at them again unless the	
1532	Board brings it up.	
1533	Mr. LeMenager stated I did review the minutes of the last meeting before I came, just on the	
1534	chance I might be appointed. I thought it was a very good idea. it was in black and white. That	
1535	way various and sundry staff know what they have the power to do. When they have to make a	
1536	decision, they know whether or not they can do it or if they have to get approval.	
1537	Ms. Kassel stated we already have a procurement policy.	
1538	Mr. LeMenager asked how does this differ?	
1539	Mr. Eckert stated in most of my districts, we have hard caps on what the facility manager can	
1540	spend, what the District manager can spend, and what the Chairman can spend. We also have the	
1541	resolution that authorizes the payment of continuing obligations. Finally, this resolution also	
1542	addresses how we deal with emergency issues and what can be spent during emergencies. It	
1543	actually covers more than what your supplemental procurement policy is. Rather than try to have	
1544	two different policies that people may look at and think they are either conflicting or inconsistent,	
1545	the thought was if we want to marry these two concepts into one resolution that you would be able	
1546	to have moving forward. The intent was not to necessarily change the supplemental procurement	
1547	policy, but also to incorporate into it dealing with continuing expenses and emergencies.	

1548	Mr. Leet stated I think the one that was put in place shortly after Ms. Kramer came on the	
1549	Board was just dollar levels that the District manager can authorize and what the whole Board can	
1550	authorize. This is just more thorough and detailed.	
1551	Ms. Montagna stated to tag onto what Mr. Eckert is saying, yes, the procurement policy is as	
1552	Mr. Leet just stated, but it also hinders a lot if we have small projects or things like that where we	
1553	are not able to get a certain number of vendor proposals to be able to meet the criteria of the	
1554	procurement policy, which holds up a lot of things. I think what Mr. Eckert is asking if the Board	
1555	would like to put in place, I highly recommend it because it would help staff and also help to keep	
1556	things moving along instead of waiting 30 or 60 days because you cannot meet the requirements	
1557	of the procurement policy, if that makes sense.	
1558	Mr. Leet stated I know Mr. Eckert has been taking a pass over the rules. Is this something we	
1559	would be able to authorize separately? Or does it need to be part of the rulemaking process?	
1560	Mr. Eckert stated my recommendation is for this to be through a resolution and not through	
1561	the rulemaking procedures, dealing with policies and that sort of thing. That is how I would	
1562	recommend doing it.	
1563	Ms. Montagna stated I agree 100%.	
1564	Ms. Kassel stated I have three questions, then. One, would we need to revoke the procurement	
1565	policy when we go through the rulemaking process?	
1566	Mr. Eckert asked did you adopt the supplemental procurement policy through rulemaking?	
1567	Ms. Kassel stated I think so.	
1568	Mr. Leet stated I am not sure.	
1569	Ms. Montagna stated no, we did not. Let me double check and confirm, but I do not believe it	
1570	was adopted through rulemaking because we have not had that hearing. That is what I am looking	
1571	through now, all the rules.	
1572	Mr. Eckert stated the answer to the question is, if it was only adopted as a policy, you could	
1573	incorporate it into a resolution without going through the 30-day hearing process.	
1574	Ms. Kassel stated my second question is, I was wondering why the procurement policy, which	
1575	was approved by the Board, only appeared in draft form in the agenda. Why do we not have a	
1576	finished version? Why were we presented with a draft?	
1577	Mr. Eckert stated I could only provide the version that was provided to me.	
1578	Ms. Kassel stated you had asked us whether or not you wanted us to authorize you to draft a	
1579	resolution, but it seems like the resolution has already been drafted. Is my understanding correct?	

1580	Mr. Eckert stated the form of the resolution that I use in other districts is what was included in	
1581	the agenda package. We did not spend significant time on that. It was just a form we use in other	
1582	places. When I showed it to the prior Chairman, she said we have a procurement policy and it	
1583	would be good to marry the two together into one resolution. The authorization I am seeking from	
1584	the Board is if you want me to do the work in trying to marry those two together and present you	
1585	with a resolution for your consideration at a future meeting. I did not want to cause the District to	
1586	incur the expenses if the Board was not in favor of it.	
1587	Ms. Kassel asked can you give us an idea of what the expense would be?	
1588	Mr. Eckert stated probably two or two-and-a-half hours, so $750 to $850 would be my guess.	
1589	Mr. Chokanis asked would we change the amount they are able to spend? Or is it just giving	
1590	them more leeway to get more vendor opportunities and move things along?	
1591	Mr. Eckert stated ultimately, that is up to the Board to decide what you want. How I envision	
1592	this process going is, if we are going to prepare it, I would prepare it as a draft. I would circulate	
1593	it to the Board prior to including in the agenda to get Board member thoughts. Then I would try to	
1594	incorporate those. Where there would be a conflict in Board member thoughts, we would address	
1595	that at a public Board meeting. I am happy not to do the work. It does not matter to me. I think it	
1596	is a best practice with a lot of communities that we have found to be helpful.	
1597	Mr. Chokanis stated I am in favor of helping things move along faster. I think we should	
1598	definitely get it. Provide a draft, something we can all look at the numbers and vote on at the next	
1599	meeting, if the rest of the Board is good with that.	
1600	Ms. Kassel asked are we authorizing Mr. Eckert to move forward?	
1601	Mr. LeMenager stated it sounds like it.	
1602	Mr. Leet stated the alternative would be to have something that is already boilerplate and	
1603	already done that maybe does not take the merging process but would just be ready for us to set	
1604	the numbers and go from there. Is that the discussion we are having?	
1605	Mr. Chokanis stated he has to blend the two together. This is just like a general resolution, and	
1606	he has to add our procurement policy and process into it. Is that correct?	
1607	Mr. Eckert stated it is. I think, to Ms. Montagna’s point, you ought to consider maybe giving	
1608	some flexibility when they cannot get proposals that staff is authorized to move forward on some	
1609	things when they can only get one or two versus three. Those are the kinds of things that I think	
1610	staff and I would have a conversation about what they think would be helpful to them. We would	
1611	present that as a draft. Ultimately, the Board will make this decision, so this will be the Board’s	
1612	policy before adoption.	

1613	Mr. Leet stated it sounds like we are giving direction for Mr. Eckert to proceed.	
1614	Mr. Eckert stated I do not need a motion. I understand what you are asking.	
1615	ii.  Action on Parcel VC-1 Debt Service	
1616	Mr. Eckert stated we filed a notice with Electronic Municipal Market Access (“EMMA”) that	
1617	relates to the prepayment of a portion of the bonds that will be made by the CDD by the end of	
1618	January.	
1619	Ms. Kassel stated I thought you were going to ask us about moving forward. I thought we were	
1620	going to pay that in December. I do not remember if we settled on that. I thought that was going	
1621	to be the action.	
1622	Mr. Eckert stated the Board settled on paying it by the end of January.	
1623	Ms. Montagna stated correct.	
1624	Mr. Eckert stated the Board could choose to do it in December, but the notice that we filed	
1625	with the bondholder depository said by the end of January. That way, the Board can be prudent to	
1626	make sure you have enough tax receipts come in and would not need those funds for operating	
1627	expenses.	
1628	iii.  Ethics Training	
1629	Mr. Eckert stated we circulated to the Board about the new requirement for ethics training.	
1630	That requirement kicks in on January 1, 2024. You have the whole calendar year of 2024 to	
1631	complete that training. We provided the Board with links to websites where that training can be	
1632	accomplished for free. There is also some paid training. A couple things I would note. We were	
1633	working with the Commission on Ethics to try to understand if they were going to have different	
1634	training for CDD Board members versus county commissioners and they said, no. It will be the	
1635	same training. You have some different laws that affect you, but it will be the same training. Our	
1636	understanding, too, is the reporting requirement. Because a lot of these are free, they do not offer	
1637	certificates. When you fill out your financial disclosure for each year, there will be a box that you	
1638	check that in 2025 to confirm you completed these four hours of ethics training in 2024. My	
1639	recommendation is, when you take the training, write down the date, the training course that you	
1640	took, and the time you spent. I also recommend if you can take a screenshot of the first page of the	
1641	online course and the last page of the online course. I think that would be helpful for you to keep.	
1642	I do not know that there will be a lot of interest in trying to verify with the Commission on Ethics,	
1643	but if I were to take the training, that is what I would do to have a record of it. Hopefully it will be	
1644	good training for everyone. My homework from this meeting is to speak with Mr. LeMenager and	
1645	remove the language from the Carports Anywhere contract. Those are all that I am taking away	
1646	from the meeting so far. If someone has a different understanding, let me know.	

1647	Mr. Leet stated and procurement resolution.	
1648	Mr. Eckert stated yes.	
1649	E. District Manager: Inframark	
1650	Mr. Hayes stated your next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, December 21 at 6:00 p.m. to	
1651	be held here at the Jones model home, as we do each month.	
1652	i.	Update on Project Board	
1653	Mr. Hayes stated what I distributed tonight is something we are rolling out. This will be in	
1654	place of the dropbox that you used to use. This is a sample to give you an idea of what we are	
1655	going to do moving forward. As you can see, there are several columns of different things we	
1656	would provide. It is going to be an update, like your dropbox would be, that would be provided to	
1657	the Board on a weekly basis on Fridays. You can see an example of sidewalk grinding, and what	
1658	notes that I have for updates on that particular item. For field service updates, I will be working	
1659	with Mr. Baez to get those updates on what we are doing with the project with dates, as well as	
1660	my notes and admin notes, whether or not it an agenda item, all that is being detailed here. I wanted	
1661	to bring this and share this with you as to what I will be doing, in addition to what we are getting	
1662	from Mr. Baez on the weekly updates from his project schedules.	
1663	Ms. Montagna stated this will be strictly updates with what is going on between meetings and	
1664	what your field staff is doing. This will not be inundated with daily tasks, like emptying doggie	
1665	stations or cleaning bathrooms. Those items will not be on here. Those are things staff does daily.	
1666	This report will be purely updates every Friday, so the Board knows what the status is and updates	
1667	that we are tasked from a previous meeting or field projects that are going on.	
1668	Ms. Kassel stated for example, things like the pool cover grate that was in the report, the rehab	
1669	in the garden, the volleyball net, the Children at Play signs, and the tower, those will all be on this	
1670	list.	
1671	Ms. Montagna stated yes.	
1672	Mr. Leet stated this looks good. This is just a sample. I do not expect it to be fully completed	
1673	or anything, but as far as the template, this is updated and refreshed. I like it so far.	
1674	Ms. Phillips asked are we going to do this online? Or are you going to update it and send it by	
1675	email?	
1676	Mr. Hayes stated I will be updating it, and I was going to send it to you via email.	
1677	Ms. Montagna stated it is a live internal working document, so it will be updated daily live.	
1678	Mr. Hayes stated it is in real time.	
1679	Ms. Montagna stated then every Friday, it will be emailed to you.	
1680	Mr. Leet asked any chance it is in Teams and you can send a view-only link?	

1681	Ms. Montagna stated it actually is. If everyone has access to Teams, we can share it that way.	
1682	Ms. Kassel stated no.	
1683	Ms. Montagna stated I did not know if everyone had access to Teams, and we actually figured	
1684	out how to do it both ways, if you like.	
1685	Ms. Phillips asked what platform is Teams?	
1686	Mr. Hayes stated Microsoft Teams.	
1687	Ms. Phillips stated no.	
1688	Ms. Kassel stated I do not have Teams, and neither does Ms. Phillips.	
1689	Ms. Montagna stated it can be sent out both ways, emailed to the Board, and for those who	
1690	have access to Teams, it can be sent to them that way, as well.	
1691	Mr. Hayes asked who is with Teams in addition to Mr. Leet?	
1692	Ms. Phillips asked is that Microsoft 365?	
1693	Mr. Leet stated yes. It should have been installed along with Outlook. We have Outlook, and	
1694	Teams was probably installed at the same time.	
1695	Ms. Phillips stated that is what I am wondering. Is that not what we have?	
1696	Mr. Chokanis stated we should.	
1697	Ms. Montagna stated yes, you probably just have to download the Teams app.	
1698	Ms. Phillips stated yes. You can still send it via email.	
1699	Mr. Hayes stated I will send this via email to Ms. Kassel. Mr. Chokanis is on Teams. Would	
1700	Ms. Phillips like it by email or Teams?	
1701	Ms. Phillips stated I would rather do Teams. I will let you know if I have it.	
1702	Mr. Hayes stated Mr. LeMenager would like it by email.	
1703	Ms. Kassel stated send it by email and include the Teams link to everyone. That way you do	
1704	not have to do anything separate. Just attach it and email it.	
1705	Mr. Chokanis stated that makes it simpler for Mr. Hayes.	
1706	Ms. Phillips stated if we have the Teams link, we can look at it anytime we want.	
1707	Ms. Kassel stated you could, yes.	
1708	ii. Update on Supervisor Emails	
1709	Mr. Hayes stated you had asked for an update on your old Supervisor emails. They were backed	
1710	up when they did the transition. What I found out from our team is, if you go to your Board member	
1711	Outlook email account and scroll to the bottom, you should be able to find those in a folder,	
1712	whether it is marked Archive or not. Your emails should be there.	
1713	Mr. Leet stated sorry, they are not.	

1714	Mr. Hayes stated then I need to do something further on that.	
1715	Mr. Leet stated there is one email from September 2023 that shows up in the archive on my	
1716	Outlook.	
1717	Ms. Montagna stated so the next step, if everyone does not have that archive folder, we already	
1718	have it setup with Microsoft that they are going to do a zip file for each of you. That is the file that	
1719	will be sent to you.	
1720	Mr. Chokanis stated I have just one email from October.	
1721	Mr. Hayes stated we will look to getting a zip file forwarded to each of you.	
1722	iii. Traffic Calming Devices	
1723	Mr. Hayes stated the Board discussed a speed study or traffic study. I contacted the County	
1724	and circulated the information to the Board through emails the traffic calming applications and	
1725	petitions. As they stated, how this would work is, they actually have the traffic engineer come out,	
1726	and he will determine if the streets would require a traffic study. That is step one. The language	
1727	kind of pointed to the HOA as the entity that would typically do this. I can take direction from the	
1728	Board. In addition to that, they stated he has to determine if it would be necessary or not. There is	
1729	no easy way around it. You go to the website. You talk to people. I have talked with them. This is	
1730	the process. That is the way you have to go.	
1731	Ms. Kassel stated last month, we discussed that we did not want a traffic study. We wanted a	
1732	speed trailer: the sign that tells you how fast you are going. That is what we were looking for.	
1733	Mr. Hayes stated yes, and I also asked them about that, but it keeps deferring me back to traffic	
1734	calming application and going through all the steps with that and having a traffic engineer	
1735	determine placement or whatnot of a speed trailer. It is not as easy as calling the sheriff’s	
1736	department, because I did that, as well, and I was diverted back to the County traffic division.	
1737	Mr. Leet stated I have seen them in the community in the past. Does the HOA have knowledge	
1738	if this used to be something the HOA could call the sheriff to do?	
1739	Ms. Kassel stated there was one in Harmony West for several weeks that I saw. I do not know	
1740	how they got it, but they are an HOA community, and they have a CDD, as well. I do not know	
1741	how they accomplished it. I am wondering if Mr. Hayes can contact Harmony West and find out	
1742	whether it was the CDD or the HOA that requested the speed trailer, or whatever it is called.	
1743	Mr. Hayes asked does anyone have a number or contact?	
1744	Ms. Kassel stated HarmonyWestCDD.org, I believe.	
1745	Mr. Hayes stated okay, I will contact them directly. I did not know if there was a person you	
1746	might know.	

1747	Ms. Montagna stated I have a contact that I will send you. We just did it in Celebration.	
1748	Mr. Leet stated in the meantime, we also have a petition that looks to be centered around being	
1749	a community-driven thing. Not trying to pass the buck, but does this need to go to the HOA for	
1750	signatures?	
1751	Ms. Kassel stated it is the Lakes, so it would be the Lakes HOA.	
1752	A Resident stated the Lakes has three HOAs.	
1753	Mr. Leet stated yes, there are many HOAs, including the HROA. In this case, it is a resident	
1754	petition that says the undersigned comprise 60% of the homeowners residing on (blank) or in the	
1755	Harmony community. Let us hear what Harmony West says. In the meantime, we can forward	
1756	along what we got from the County.	
1757	The Resident stated if it is something the HOA should do, we call the County, and the County	
1758	says the CDD should do it.	
1759	Mr. Hayes stated I am just quoting off the documents that were provided by the County.	
1760	Mr. Leet stated I will forward that information.	
1761	The Resident stated forward those documents to Mary Jane. She talks to me, and we will work	
1762	it out among the communities. Should the HROA be involved?	
1763	Ms. Kassel stated I do not know. First of all, it is on a County-owned road. The HOA does not	
1764	have purview, nor does the CDD, on a County-owned road. I do not understand why they give us	
1765	the runaround.	
1766	Mr. LeMenager asked which road are we talking about?	
1767	Ms. Kassel stated Five Oaks Drive between Middlebrook Place and Feathergrass Court, and	
1768	the end of the road. That is where people are really speeding.	
1769	The Resident stated they did have some type of trailer with the speed thing on it for a very	
1770	short period of time, only two weeks.	
1771	Ms. Kassel asked did they? How long ago was that?	
1772	The Resident stated two months ago.	
1773	Mr. Chokanis stated it was between Feathergrass Court and Middlebrook Place.	
1774	Mr. Leet stated we are at three hours of meeting time. We have direction to talk with Harmony	
1775	West. We will forward this to residents who can maybe get involvement at the HOA level.	
1776	Mr. Chokanis asked was this issue brought up by residents?	
1777	Mr. Leet stated yes.	
1778	Mr. Chokanis stated she was asking for a traffic study.	
1779	Mr. Leet stated Celebration just did something recently. Harmony West did something.	

1780	Mr. Chokanis stated I really think what would solve the problem is if we ask the sheriff to	
1781	come out here and monitor that road for a little bit. That is the solution I would ask for, instead of	
1782	trying to get something that says how fast you are going.	
1783	Mr. Hayes stated on a community level, anyone can call the sheriff and make that request.	
1784	Ms. Kassel stated yes.	
1785	Mr. Hamstra stated there is something called a joint traffic enforcement agreement (“JTEA”).	
1786	Usually larger communities enter into it with the sheriff’s department. They will ask you do an	
1787	inventory of your speed signs and yield and stop signs, so your signage is up to speed before they	
1788	commit to deploying their officers in here to do control. That may come up when you ask them.	
1789	Mr. Chokanis stated I know a few deputies who live here. I can ask them to see if they can get	
1790	some information or get someone out here to start writing tickets. I think that would be the best	
1791	solution.	
1792	Ms. Phillips stated I would also like to see them start cracking down on golf carts.	
1793	Ms. Montagna stated Mr. Hamstra is correct. Before the sheriff will put anyone out here, they	
1794	will want our signs to be DOT regulated and all that.	
1795	Mr. Chokanis stated if you know someone, they might just send someone out.	
1796	Ms. Montagna stated yes, if you know someone in the neighborhood, they might do it gratis	
1797	for you. If you go through the sheriff’s department, they will ask exactly for what Mr. Hamstra	
1798	stated.	
1799	iv. Miscellaneous Items	
1800	Mr. Hayes stated we talked about the splash pad earlier. I am waiting for an estimate from	
1801	Professional Fountain Services for the chlorinator. I have already given the Board direction of	
1802	what is going to happen moving forward.	
1803	Ms. Kassel asked when do we expect to see the rules from Ms. Montagna, the draft rule change	
1804	suggestions?	
1805	Ms. Montagna stated you will see those by email within the next week and a half. You can	
1806	send comments and revisions back. I will compile all of that, and it will be put in your next agenda	
1807	for review. If we are going to make any changes, we will advertise for a rulemaking hearing.	
1808	Ms. Kassel stated I could do this under the consent agenda, but I will do it here. I noticed copies	
1809	of the receipts for credit card bills were not with the invoices. We requested that last month, and	
1810	we were told we would get those copies because they were not in this month’s expenditure	
1811	package. I am wondering why not.	

1812	Ms. Montagna stated Ms. Paula Davis is working on that with Mr. Jeison Castillo leaving and	
1813	getting a new card for Mr. Baez, along with all the Home Depot receipts. We are getting those	
1814	together and putting them in a report that will not take up a lot of space. The question is, do you	
1815	want it in the agenda package, or do you want it emailed out separately, like we email the other	
1816	invoices to you?	
1817	Ms. Kassel stated you can just put it in with the invoices, like it used to be.	
1818	Mr. Leet stated that works for me.	
1819	Ms. Montagna stated okay, but not with the main agenda package.	
1820	Ms. Kassel stated correct, not in the agenda package. If it is in the agenda package, it has to be	
1821	ADA compliant.	
1822	Ms. Montagna stated correct. We will have that on your next email with the invoices; it will	
1823	be included.	
1824	Ms. Kassel stated for Mr. Logan and Ms. Donna Bruno, who had paid for a spot in the RV lot	
1825	in January 2021, almost two years ago and she is trying to get her money back. The money was	
1826	turned over to the CDD. I do not know if she approached the CDD, but she is looking for her	
1827	money back.	
1828	Ms. Montagna stated she has, and we have gone back and forth with the HOA because her	
1829	check was turned in to the HOA when the HOA was handling it before it was turned over to the	
1830	CDD. I am not sure of the last communication, but I will follow up on that with Mr. Baez. Yes,	
1831	she has contacted the CDD. We have worked with the HOA. I know Mr. Hayes has, as well. I will	
1832	follow up and get a definitive resolution for that. I am happy to refund the money. We just do not	
1833	have a copy of her check.	
1834	Ms. Kassel stated she gave me a copy of the canceled check, and I will give it to Mr. Hayes.	
1835	Ms. Montagna stated that is perfect because the CDD does not have any record of her paying	
1836	because it was before this was turned over to us. If you have the canceled check, we are happy to	
1837	refund it from the CDD as long as the Board is okay with that.	
1838	Mr. Hayes stated to piggyback Ms. Montagna’s comment, if that is the Board’s direction and	
1839	you would like to do that, I would like to hear that from Board and we can work toward getting	
1840	this resident a refund.	
1841	Mr. Leet asked do we have any indication that the HOA remitted it to the CDD?	
1842	Ms. Kassel stated any money she handed over would have been transferred to the CDD. I think	
1843	the issue is, they did not have a record that she had paid.	
1844	Ms. Montagna stated correct.	

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Ms. Kassel stated now she has given it to the CDD. Mr. Leet stated it seems pretty clear.
Ms. Montagna stated we will fill out a check request, and she will be refunded. All we need to do is take the check that was given to Mr. Hayes as backup, attach it to the check request, and we will get it issued.
Ms. Kassel stated good. Last but not least, this is sort of field services but also the District manager since the District manager manages field services. I want to know whether or not we can get those stones at the back edge of the road out to the garden moved with the backhoe. I would like field services to do that and re-put up the garden sign on Five Oaks Drive. Can we get that done?
Ms. Montagna stated I do not see why we could not. Mr. Hayes needs to get the details of exactly what they want, and we will work with field staff starting tomorrow to get that accomplished.
Ms. Kassel stated you can work with Ms. Ash-Mower to learn where the stones and where they need to go, as well as where the sign needs to go.
Ms. Montagna stated we will make sure we get it accomplished with Mr. Satterwhite and Mr.
Baez. As long as Mr. Hayes has the details, we will be good to go.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Business Items
Consideration of the Engagement Letter from Tax Solutions for Arbitrage Rebate Calculations
Mr. Leet reviewed the engagement letter from Tax Solutions for arbitrage rebate calculations.

Ms. Kassel made a MOTION to approve the engagement letter from Tax Solutions for arbitrage rebate calculations, in the amount of $600 for each year 2023, 2024, and 2025, for a total of $1,800.
Mr. LeMenager seconded the motion.

Upon VOICE VOTE, with all in favor, unanimous approval was given (by a margin of 5-0) to the engagement letter from Tax Solutions for arbitrage rebate calculations, in the amount of $600 for each year 2023, 2024, and 2025, for a total of $1,800.

Consideration of Pool Heater Proposals
Ms. Kassel stated we discussed this last month.
Mr. Hayes stated if I may summarize. You have the proposals from the last meeting. You asked
me to check on solar options. Symbiont Service (“Symbiont”) is the only one who does it. They do not recommend it because it is more expensive. It is not a good option, is what they are

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recommending. They discounted their pool heater proposal by $1,000. You still have the other proposals from Big Z Pool Service (“Big Z”) for $46,547 and Symbiont coming back at $55,671.
Mr. Leet asked Big Z was heat pumps, and Symbiont was geothermal units?
Mr. Hayes stated yes. It will be similar, an upgrade to newer equipment like what you have.
Mr. Leet stated it is a big-ticket item. It is an overdue maintenance item. We have the cheaper heat pump option, which will definitely be efficient.

Ms. Kassel made a MOTION to approve the proposal from Symbiont Services to replace pool heaters with geothermal heating units, in the amount of $55,671.
Mr. Leet seconded the motion.

Mr. LeMenager stated my wife had the same comment about the pools as I do. What temperature to we keep the pool at?
Ms. Phillips stated 84°.
Mr. LeMenager stated that is ridiculous. That is like taking a bath. We keep the pools way too hot. Is that causing us a problem with our heat pumps? Are they wearing out too fast because we keep the pools too hot?
Ms. Phillips stated I think it is a matter of opinion about them being too warm. Ms. Montagna stated these heat pumps are old.
Mr. Leet stated Big Z has a seven-year warranty on the heat exchanger and parts, and five years on labor. I believe Symbiont has a warranty on theirs, as well.
Mr. Hayes stated yes, five years on manufacturer’s labor for new units, and seven years on all parts.
Mr. Leet asked for both proposals?
Mr. Hayes stated yes. a lifetime warranty on titanium tube portions of the condenser and evaporator heat exchanger.
Mr. Leet asked the condensers are for geothermal units? Ms. Kassel stated yes, from Symbiont.
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Ms. Phillips stated yes.
Mr. Chokanis asked this is the company we used previously? Mr. Leet stated yes.
Ms. Montagna asked would Ms. Kassel include in the motion that the funds come out of reserves?
Ms. Kassel stated yes.

Ms. Kassel amended the MOTION to approve the proposal from Symbiont Services to replace pool heaters with geothermal heating units, in the amount of $55,671, to be funded from reserves.
Mr. Leet seconded the amendment.

Mr. LeMenager stated I want to make a comment on reserves after we vote.

Upon VOICE VOTE, with all in favor, unanimous approval was given (by a margin of 5-0) to the proposal from Symbiont Services to replace pool heaters with geothermal heating units, in the amount of $55,671, to be funded from reserves.

Mr. LeMenager stated I am concerned about this use of reserves as a hidden pot of money. Reading last year’s financial statements and not finding a line item for our $600,000 bill for the alleys and that it was buried in footnotes that were so cryptic, it was unreal. I seriously question whether or not our accounting methods would measure up to generally accepted accounting principles (“GAAP”).
Ms. Montagna stated they do because we get audited. The second part to answer your question is, we changed that moving forward. When we went through the budget process, the Board decided that moving forward, the monies for reserves will be on a little cheat sheet. It will be like a balance sheet, but it will show the starting balance and list anything that comes out of there. I do agree with you. It needs to be listed out in detail: alley paving $600,000, heat pumps $50,000, and then the remaining balance. That will be done moving forward.
Mr. LeMenager stated excellent.
Consideration of Resolution 2024-05, Amending the Fiscal Year 2023 Budget
Mr. Leet read Resolution 2024-05 into the record by title.
Mr. Hayes stated this is to memorialize what was spent out of your reserves, the alley project, for $600,000+. With that being said, you spent this money out of your reserves, and over spent. We are simply doing some housekeeping to approve Resolution 2024-05 to amend the budget for
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1956	Mr. LeMenager made a MOTION to approve Resolution 2024-05,	
1957	amending the fiscal year 2023 budget.	
1958	Mr. Leet seconded the motion.	
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1960	Ms. Kassel stated I had a hard time looking at this reserve fund schedule and understanding	
1961	the different columns. What is current budget verses final budget? I have a hard time understanding	
1962	what each column meant and how we were actually moving this money. I understand the purpose	
1963	of the Resolution; it is the schedule that I am struggling with. What is current budget versus final	
1964	budget?	
1965	Ms. Montagna stated current budget is what you are contributing to your reserves.	
1966	Ms. Kassel asked why is it called current budget?	
1967	Ms. Montagna stated that is what you budgeted for fiscal year 2023. For this fiscal year 2024,	
1968	we budgeted $412,000 to put into your reserves. Last year, you did $300,000, so that is the first	
1969	column. I am not looking at the document to be able to explain it well.	
1970	Mr. Hayes stated Ms. Montagna is correct that the Board authorized to put $412,000 into	
1971	reserves for fiscal year 2024.	
1972	Ms. Kassel stated but $412,000 is not a number that appears on the schedule.	
1973	Mr. LeMenager stated that is because this is last fiscal year’s budget.	
1974	Ms. Montagna stated that is correct. I was simply using that as an example. In this schedule,	
1975	you should see a $300,000 contribution. Is that on there?	
1976	Mr. Hayes stated yes.	
1977	Ms. Montagna stated $300,000 is what you budgeted last year to go into reserves, plus what	
1978	you already had. Then you overspent that total amount by $470,000.	
1979	Ms. Kassel stated yes, about $486,000 and change.	
1980	Ms. Montagna stated not that you overspent it because you had the money. Anything you	
1981	spend, we have to document for the audit. This is why we have to do a budget amendment.	
1982	Mr. Leet stated we put in $300,000, but we took out more than $300,000 over the course of the	
1983	year for the alleys.	
1984	Ms. Montagna stated correct.	
1985	Ms. Kassel asked another question I have is, since we spent $786,000+, why are we proposing	
1986	only $486,000?	
1987	Mr. Leet stated that is the difference. That is the change.	
1988	Mr. LeMenager stated it is just math.	

1990	Upon VOICE VOTE, with all in favor, unanimous approval was	
1991	given (by a margin of 5-0) to Resolution 2024-05, amending the	
1992	fiscal year 2023 budget.	
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1994	D. Discussion Regarding Field Services	
1995	Mr. Leet stated I had asked for this discussion to be on the agenda, and we covered that mostly	
1996	with Mr. Baez. We had some incidents in the last month where a resident was using a facility. In	
1997	one case, it was a booking that was supposed to have been blocked off for a day off for field	
1998	services. In another case, it was a resident reserved a facility, they got there, and it was not in a	
1999	clean condition. We had to make a phone call. We can table this, but I want to make sure we had,	
2000	as a Board and for the residents’ benefit, a good understanding of what the field services staffing	
2001	is, when they are here, and if there is an issue, that CDD email usually seems to work, but	
2002	sometimes I hear people saying they are having issues with it. I made a post on Facebook, and no	
2003	one showed up here saying something got dropped. All that to say, we can table this for now. We	
2004	discussed part of it, and the hour is late.	
2005	Mr. Satterwhite stated I asked Mr. Baez to create a new schedule. I want to know who is here	
2006	each day, and what times. He showed me a draft, and he is working on that.	
2007	Mr. Leet stated Mr. Baez responds to those emails, and that seems to be the best way. I want	
2008	to make sure residents know if there is an issue like that and if it is a Saturday morning, they can	
2009	send an email to that address and be reasonably confident it will be addressed and taken care of.	
2010	Mr. Hayes stated we all receive those emails.	
2011	Mr. Leet stated perfect.	
2012	Ms. Kassel stated but there needs to be coordination with the District manager who is	
2013	approving these applications and events.	
2014	Mr. Leet stated yes. I remember we all approved an event at the pool, and they ended up	
2015	moving it. They did not have 50 people there, it was fine and taken care of, but I want to make	
2016	sure for residents’ information that we have confidence in field services. I would say we are	
2017	definitely seeing improvement there, so thank you, Mr. Baez, Mr. Satterwhite, and Mr. Hayes.	
2018	E. Discussion Regarding Developer Use of District Facilities for Marketing Photographs	
2019	Ms. Capano stated this is our first CDD community we have worked in. We want to make sure	
2020	we abide by as many rules as we can. We would like to hold a photo shoot with a professional	
2021	photographer and possibly have them fly a drone. We are hoping to have access to the amenities	
2022	for a photo shoot one day.	

2024	Are those buildings on properties that allow them access to all the amenities? The amenities are	
2025	public access except for things like the boats and the pools, which are regulated. Are they entitled	
2026	to access things like the boats and the pools on those parcels?	
2027	Mr. Eckert stated I do not know where this land is, to be honest with you, but the general rule	
2028	is, if a property is within the boundaries of the CDD and they are paying the full rate of	
2029	assessments, then they are entitled to use the CDD’s recreation facilities.	
2030	Ms. Kassel asked my second question is, is there any drawback or liability in allowing them to	
2031	come with a professional photographer to take photographs of our facilities and use them in their	
2032	marketing materials?	
2033	Mr. Eckert stated we would want them to sign a license agreement just to make sure, if for	
2034	some reason, they cause injury or someone with their crew is injured, that the CDD would not be	
2035	liable. That is typically how we would handle this type of situation.	
2036	Ms. Montagna stated yes. The other thing, too, is, should we find out first where this land is,	
2037	if they are, in fact, entitled to use the facilities. Then if let them use this marketing material and we	
2038	come to find out they are not permitted to use the facilities, I think that might get us into a little bit	
2039	of a jam.	
2040	Ms. Kassel stated they are located within the bounds of the CDD.	
2041	Mr. Leet stated yes, it is just inside the west entrance on the left side, which is undeveloped.	
2042	Ms. Montagna stated then I assume they are paying full assessments.	
2043	Mr. Leet stated the CDD owns the landscaping all around the lots.	
2044	Ms. Phillips asked is that by where the horse thing is?	
2045	Ms. Kassel stated no, the other entrance. As you drive toward Saint Cloud, to the right is all	
2046	those new buildings.	
2047	Ms. Capano stated to my understanding, I had spoken with someone on the CDD Board, and	
2048	that has been paid, and our developer has been paying it going forward.	
2049	Ms. Kassel stated it was probably Ms. Kramer.	
2050	Ms. Capano stated yes.	
2051	Ms. Kassel asked should her company contact Mr. Eckert for a copy of the license agreement?	
2052	Mr. Eckert stated yes, she can contact me. We have done this before. I have something that is	
2053	relatively off the shelf and provide that. It will protect the CDD should something happen.	

2054	Mr. LeMenager stated this is the sixth or seventh builder who has put stuff up and wants to	
2055	take a few pictures for the purpose of promotion. Did we not do a bunch of paperwork for five or	
2056	six others to let these folks take a few pictures and use them? I doubt it.	
2057	Ms. Kassel stated I do not think so.	
2058	Mr. LeMenager asked then why are we doing it now? I am sitting here, saying to myself “give	
2059	me a break.” We have been sitting here for three hours. Why are we wasting time on nonsense like	
2060	this?	
2061	Mr. Leet stated she talked with Ms. Kramer, as we heard, and encouraged to ask. My thoughts	
2062	are, this seems like a pretty harmless request to use CDD property.	
2063	Mr. LeMenager stated I am guessing every other builder that has been in here did not bother	
2064	to even ask. They just went and took pictures. I think it is very nice of these people to actually	
2065	come and let us know ahead of time they want to take pictures. I think all we should say is to allow	
2066	them to take pictures, sell some more land, and let us get more bodies in this community,	
2067	Mr. Leet stated I do not object.	
2068	Ms. Kassel stated I just feel that we have a responsibility as Board members to make sure we	
2069	are doing things in a way that protects us. That is all. That is why I ask these questions. If Mr.	
2070	Eckert has a copy of the license agreement, it should not cost anything.	
2071	Mr. Eckert stated yes, it does not seem like a very big ask.	
2072	Ms. Montagna stated I think it is worth having a license agreement. it is a Board decision, but	
2073	I agree with Mr. Eckert. It is our job to help protect the CDD. That is all we are trying to do. I was	
2074	not here previously for other builders, and I am sure you are exactly right; they probably just did	
2075	it and did not have Board approval for it.	
2076	Mr. Leet asked what is our outcome? What direction are we giving our counsel?	
2077	Ms. Kassel stated she will contact Mr. Hayes with Mr. Eckert’s contact information. She will	
2078	reach out to him for a license agreement. They will sign it and provide it to us.	
2079	Mr. Leet stated that does not sound too onerous.	
2080	Ms. Capano asked is there any card access that I will need for the pool facilities?	
2081	Mr. Chokanis stated you could message any one of us to get access.	
2082	Mr. Leet stated if you contact Mr. Hayes or Ms. Montagna, field services could provide access.	
2083	Ms. Phillips stated I can, too. If you go to the website, HarmonyCDD.org, all our names and	
2084	addresses are there.	
2085	Mr. Hayes stated my email is there.	

2086	Mr. Chokanis stated you just probably just let Mr. Hayes know when you want to be there to	
2087	take pictures. He can coordinate with staff.	
2088	Ms. Capano stated there are some flags from existing builders in the community and some	
2089	signage. Would we be allowed to do those things, as well? I think there was a Lennar flag, but they	
2090	are no longer here, is my knowledge. Can we switch those out?	
2091	Mr. Leet asked do you know where those are located? Are they along U.S. Hwy 192?	
2092	Ms. Capano stated no, they are in the community. I would have to look again, but I will send	
2093	an email to someone.	
2094	Mr. Chokanis stated a lot people post Open House signs all the time.	
2095	Ms. Phillips stated we have HOA rules about signs, though.	
2096	Mr. Leet stated it complies with HOA rules.	
2097	Ms. Kassel stated and CDD rules because we are not supposed to have signs on CDD property.	
2098	If it is on your property, that is fine.	
2099	Ms. Capano stated I think there are some 4x8 signs, like Jones Homes has them up on CDD	
2100	property. Would that need us to go through the approval process?	
2101	Ms. Phillips stated they have some signs up in the Lakes.	
2102	Mr. LeMenager stated like right out here.	
2103	Mr. Leet asked are you interested within the community, or along the highway?	
2104	Ms. Capano stated within the community.	
2105	Ms. Phillips stated I meant, is it going to be on property that you own, or will it be on CDD	
2106	property.	
2107	Ms. Capano stated we will have one on our property. I know we are allowed to do that, but we	
2108	want to put one on CDD property.	
2109	Ms. Phillips stated I am not sure if we have any on our property.	
2110	Ms. Capano stated I thought Jones Homes has one.	
2111	Mr. Leet stated coordinate with one of us and I think we would be more than happy to help.	
2112	As Mr. LeMenager said, we are happy to finally have something going in on those lots.	
2113	Ms. Capano stated we are happy to be here.	
2114	F. Discussion Regarding Developer Bond for Harmony Cove	
2115	Ms. Kassel stated we should table this.	
2116	Mr. Leet stated no one from Harmony Cove is here.	
2117	Ms. Kassel stated remove this from the agenda.	
2118	Mr. Leet stated yes, nothing is happening for this.	

2119	G. Discussion Regarding Guidance on Verge Modifications	
2120	Mr. Leet stated we had a request from the HROA because the CDD no longer does the	
2121	landscaping on the verge in front of people’s houses on boulevards. What if a resident wants to	
2122	put in paver bricks or some other kind of groundcover? It is still CDD property. As part of the	
2123	rulemaking process since we are already going through that, do we have any thoughts, as a Board,	
2124	do we need to make sure people are not putting in paver bricks and messing up our irrigation?	
2125	Ms. Montagna stated I will tell you another district we have, what that Board implemented, for	
2126	different reasons, is called leadwalks. They can put in the pavers or anything as long as it is not a	
2127	permanent structure but can be removed if need be. That keeps them from digging into the ground	
2128	and breaking lines. I do not know if that is something this Board would like to implement, but it	
2129	works fairly well in this other district and we have not had any issues with it. Again, it is no	
2130	permanent structure.	
2131	Mr. Leet asked are we comfortable with that? Do we want to have a more thorough discussion	
2132	in the future?	
2133	Ms. Kassel stated yes; table it.	
2134	Mr. Leet stated please add this to the agenda for next month.	
2135	H. Discussion Regarding Replacing Live Oak with Post Oak at 6694 Bluestem Road	
2136	Mr. Leet stated I do not remember this item.	
2137	Mr. Hayes stated a resident made a request at this address. He made a suggestion along that	
2138	street that has sycamores and a small live oak tree there. What he wanted to ask is if the Board	
2139	would consider replacing the live oak with a post oak tree.	
2140	Mr. LeMenager stated sure, if he pays for it.	
2141	Mr. Leet stated it is CDD property, so it would have to be with our consent and agreement.	
2142	Due to the hour, I suggest we table this.	
2143	Mr. LeMenager stated yes.	
2144	Mr. Hayes asked bring this back in December?	
2145	Mr. Leet stated yes.	
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2147	SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Consent Agenda	
2148	A. Minutes for the October 26, 2023, Regular Meeting	
2149	The minutes are included in the agenda package and available for public review on the	
2150	District’s website or in the District Office during normal business hours.	
2151	Ms. Kassel stated I sent suggested revisions to the minutes.	
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The financial statements are included in the agenda package and available for public review on the District’s website or in the District Office during normal business hours.
Ms. Kassel stated we had interest income of $34,509 for the first month in revenue? Is that correct?
Ms. Montagna stated I do not have the financials in front of me. Does Mr. Hayes? It could be a typographical error because I guarantee you did not earn $34,000 in one month.
Ms. Kassel stated it is page 160 for the period ending October 31, 2023. For interest investments, actual year to date is $34,509.
Ms. Montagna stated let me check. That might be inclusive of all your accounts. Let me look at that to make sure it is correct, and I will send an email to the Board, either confirming it is correct or with the correct number.
Mr. Chokanis asked that is a positive? Ms. Montagna stated yes.
Ms. Kassel stated under Board of Supervisors, we paid $1,400 for one month, when we had an absent Supervisor? I did not understand that number. It should be $200 for four people, or $800.
Ms. Montagna stated it might be a carry over or something, but I will confirm that, too. Ms. Phillips stated it might have to do with when they issue checks.
C. #282 Invoices and Check Register (October 2023)
The check register and invoices are included in the agenda package and available for public review on the District’s website or in the District Office during normal business hours.

Ms. Kassel made a MOTION to approve the consent agenda, minutes as amended, and clarification to be sent regarding two line items in the financials.
Mr. Leet seconded the motion.

Upon VOICE VOTE, with all in favor, unanimous approval was given (by a margin of 5-0) to the consent agenda, minutes as amended, and clarification to be sent regarding two line items in the financials.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Supervisor Requests
Ms. Kassel stated I have two very briefly. The first one is, there is no trash can by the entrance to Billy’s Trail. The Nature and Animal Committee (“Committee”) is requesting the CDD purchase one. It would be nice if trash cans were in more places than just the entrance because people might leave trash, but that is the only feasible place for field services to empty the trash

2189	regularly. The Committee is requesting the CDD install a trash can at the entrance to Billy’s Trail	
2190	so when people come out, they can put their trash there.	
2191	Ms. Phillips asked is that an easy spot for field services?	
2192	Ms. Kassel stated yes, it is right on Five Oaks Drive.	
2193	Mr. Leet stated it is CDD property.	
2194	Ms. Phillips stated we encourage people to take their trash with them.	
2195	Ms. Kassel stated people do not always do that. This would be convenient.	
2196	Ms. Phillips stated as long as it is not out of the way to pick it up.	
2197	Ms. Kassel stated exactly.	
2198	Mr. Hayes asked do you want to discuss and approve?	
2199	Ms. Kassel stated I do not think we need a motion.	
2200	Mr. Leet stated that sounds good to me. It sounds like a very small expenditure.	
2201	Ms. Phillips stated it will probably not be more than $100.	
2202	Mr. Leet stated and the recurring field services activities.	
2203	Mr. Hamstra stated it will need a concrete base to make sure it is stable.	
2204	Mr. Leet stated yes, but that will not be much. Spending wise, we do not need a motion. We	
2205	are happy with that direction.	
2206	Ms. Kassel stated my second request, there are from some old buildings and portables that we	
2207	had, we have some ramps. The Committee wants to use those ramps on Billy’s Trail on CDD	
2208	property where there are a couple wet spots. In one place, there is a depression going from CDD	
2209	property to Billy’s Trail proper, and one other place partway down CDD property on Billy’s Trail	
2210	where there is a depression and water collects. These ramps will probably be thrown away and are	
2211	currently in storage down by the garden.	
2212	Mr. Hamstra asked did you say rocks, or ramps?	
2213	Mr. Hayes stated they are ramps. They are down by the garden area that are just off the old	
2214	portable buildings.	
2215	Ms. Kassel stated the Committee would like to take and use them, but they are CDD property,	
2216	I believe. So we just want permission to take them before they get trashed.	
2217	Mr. Chokanis asked how long are they?	
2218	Ms. Kassel stated I do not know. Is Mr. Dwyer still here?	
2219	Mr. Chokanis asked are they in good shape? Are they wood?	
2220	Mr. Hayes stated no, they are metal.	

2221	Ms. Montagna stated they are aluminum and they are in good shape. They are just sitting there,	
2222	so they will probably not be in good shape if we continue to let them sit there.	
2223	Ms. Kassel stated yes. They will need to be trashed or something will need to be done with	
2224	them if we have to vacate the property. We may as well just use them. They will be used on CDD	
2225	property anyway. Having permission is the question.	
2226	Mr. LeMenager stated sure.	
2227	Mr. Chokanis asked are golf carts allowed?	
2228	Ms. Kassel stated no, bollards will be put on them when they are installed. I have another item.	
2229	Street parking, Mr. Chokanis was going to check with the County.	
2230	Mr. Chokanis stated they can access anywhere, but the parking inhibits them in certain areas	
2231	depending where parking is. They can get into the community, but if the parking is too much, then	
2232	they cannot get somewhere in certain areas.	
2233	Ms. Kassel asked can we put this on the agenda for next month to discuss street parking?	
2234	Mr. Leet asked what is the action, to take it up with the County?	
2235	Ms. Kassel stated yes.	
2236	Ms. Phillips stated people should park their vehicles next to the curb closer.	
2237	Mr. LeMenager stated this is not a CDD issue. I am sorry.	
2238	Mr. Leet stated but we can go to the County as a CDD.	
2239	Mr. LeMenager asked why? It is not a CDD issue.	
2240	Mr. Chokanis stated if there is an emergency, a fire truck cannot get through.	
2241	Mr. LeMenager stated I can appreciate that, but it is still not a CDD issue. This is a three-hour-	
2242	and-40-minute meeting. We are the CDD.	
2243	Ms. Kassel stated that is why we want to discuss it.	
2244	Mr. LeMenager stated you were kind enough to designate me Chairman. Trust me, we are	
2245	going to stick to CDD issues. This is not in the purview of the CDD. We do not need to waste our	
2246	time talking about it.	
2247	Ms. Kassel stated remember, we spent more than an hour just on the election of the vacant seat.	
2248	Mr. LeMenager stated that is true. So the actual meeting has been two hours and 40 minutes.	
2249	Mr. Hayes stated we will add this discussion to the next agenda.	
2250	Mr. Leet stated yes, then it will be acknowledged for the residents.	
2251	Ms. Phillips stated I have something I want to ask about. When I look at the things that field	
2252	services has to do every week, one sink had dirt in it and people are climbing over the fence and	
2253	getting into Ashley Park, do we ever document which things are vandalism and mischief versus	

2254	things just wearing out? It might be a lot of extra work, but I think it is interesting to find out how	
2255	much of our extra expenses are caused by vandalism and people misbehaving and mischief.	
2256	Mr. Baez asked and the time we spend cleaning the area that is damaged?	
2257	Ms. Phillips stated yes, because that takes away from the whole community. We do not	
2258	necessarily want to go after individual people, but we mainly need people to know if it is their or	
2259	their neighbor’s kids causing part of it, maybe they would all start talking to their kids.	
2260	Mr. Leet stated when there is a big-ticket item, it is brought to our attention. We had some	
2261	discussion of security cameras on CDD property. If there is a way to have them be discussed	
2262	without disclosing whether we need to or if it is a budgetary item, between management and	
2263	counsel, can we find out a way to discuss it without needing to disclose specifics? At least be	
2264	cognizant that we might have an expense if we want to continue providing surveillance of CDD	
2265	property.	
2266	Mr. Hayes stated you can just block out all the scope and everything involved in it. You have	
2267	an estimate.	
2268	Mr. Leet stated yes, I know we have the quotes. I am not acting Chairman anymore. Can we at	
2269	least have that, in whatever redactable form it needs to be, on the December agenda? It might be	
2270	completely shot down by the new Chairman.	
2271	Mr. LeMenager stated I will not. I am fine with it.	
2272	Mr. Eckert stated I am trying to share what the law says. You cannot talk about the details of	
2273	a security system in an open meeting. That does not mean the Board cannot talk about it. You just	
2274	need to schedule a portion of the meeting when we have to ask the public to leave, we shut down	
2275	Zoom, the Board has the discussion in a closed session. If there is a vote on a new security system,	
2276	that has to take place after the Board’s private session. It is not optional, and you cannot discuss	
2277	the details of a security system or camera specifics or locations in a public meeting.	
2278	Mr. Leet asked understanding all that, what is the Board’s thoughts?	
2279	Mr. Hayes stated it sounds to me that you have some ideas about costs affixed to repairs and	
2280	maintenance, and leave it at that.	
2281	Mr. Chokanis asked if we want to talk about it, why do we not do it at the beginning of the	
2282	meeting? Then we can open it up to the public after so we can get that out of the way, instead of	
2283	having it in the middle of the meeting, people have to leave, and then we let them back in.	
2284	Mr. Leet stated that would be like a shade meeting.	

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2285	Mr. Satterwhite stated yes. I was going to suggest that. We just did this in another district with	
2286	a shade meeting, and it was at the beginn�ng of the meeting before we opened it up to the public.	
2287	It was the exact same topic: security cameras.	
2288	Mr. Leet asked do we want to look at that in December or look at it later?	
2289	Ms. Kassel stat7d that is fine, December or January.	
2290	Mr. Leet stated December is already full. How about January?	
2291	Ms. Kassel stated yes.	
2292	Mr. Leet stated I can defer to the new Chairman, but those are my thoughts.	
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2294	EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

On MOTION by Mr. Leet, seconded by Ms. Kassel, with all in favor, the meeting adjourned at 9:46 p.m.

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